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Article #22779Re: Dialup servers and mail routing - advice, please!
From: John Naismith
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 00:00
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On Sun, 7 May 2000 22:09:30 +0100, 'Dungeon' Dave <Dungeon@SpamNot.Here> wrote: >I'm trying to help my neighbour who has registered a domain with >an ISP that will also host his website and mail collection (hope >I've got this correct). > >Unfortunately, the ISP doesn't support dialup accounts nor the >sending of mail.. ie: he can connect across to their mail servers to >download mail sent to this domain, but it isn't interested in >sending any of his mails. > >The fix I proposed was to set up a freeserve dialup account so that >he can connect up and use the FS SMTP server to send mail out, >plus surf. Once on FS, he can then connect across to retrieve his >mail. Unfortunately, this went nipples uppermost when I couldn't >connect to FS using his machine (mine connects ok, but there's >something odd with the negotiation between his modem and FS' >modem pools) > >So, the question: anyone know of a method in which there is a >free dialup to the internet which supports the sending of mail? Errm - I'm confused :-) You say he's registered a domain with an *ISP* that doesn't support dialup or email sending? Presumably they won't forward mail/web sites either? Sounds like he's bought the wrong deal. As far as sending mail goes - there's stacks of free ISPs. Try Lineone - their free account (not the Quip/Lineone deal) works well, usually a damn sight faster than Demon during the day (bit slower on browsing in the evenings). It's www.lineone.net to "sign-up" BTW. I really don't see what the problem is - my wife has her domain hosted by uk2net (before anyone chips in - yes I have seen the complaints on uk.net, all I can say is they haven't affected us and their mail servers are a *lot* more responsive than Demon's) and mail/web gets forwarded to naismith.d.c.u. After that the local mail server copies it to her desktop and laptop across the LAN, and then for good measure forwards it out to her freeserve account which she uses when out & about with the laptop. All the email clients she uses are set so that the "from" and "reply-to" fields are set to the domain hosted by uk2net, so unless someone examines the header it appears it's coming from her domain (looks a bit more professional).... Only problem I have is synchronising the laptop & desktop machines for sent mail (only for the Demon account). I currently use a freeware program where I've set up a shortcut on the desktop to copy the messages (actually a sort of message "database" - it's one file) across. However this requires that you remember to click on this shortcut after sending email. Anyone got any ideas about a program that'll do this automatically (without spending shed-loads of cash) ? I've tried a few programs - none of which work quite right (they tend to try to copy *before* the email is sent - which is fine if the email actually does get sent, but not if it gets "queued"). The one I've got works well, but it's manual, with the attendant problems that causes due to the user forgetting to click at the right time. I know that I could solve this by throwing cash at it, but we're now post-IR35 and capital expenditure is a "no-no" unless it's tied to the contract, so ideas on a postcard please ;-) PS I don't want to hijack Dave's thread - it's just I can't see what his problem is (apart from the fact his neighbour has a crap hosting service and modem)...... -- John Naismith john@naismith.demon.co.uk
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