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Tom Bird wrote:

> It didn't like my 486's network card (Realtek 8019) which is supposedly
> NE2000 compatible, completely missed the replacement I found for it
> which was stamped "Netware Certified" and known working, both cards had
> at some time worked perfectly under Linux on the same machine, no decent
> /proc stuff, shite default shell.  I suppose it's 90% me being used to
> Linux.

I don't know about the network card. I kind of agree that Linux's /proc
is kinda nice, but I'm sure you can get all the information somewhere
else in FreeBSD (perhaps I'm strange in thinking filesystems are for
storing files more than anything else).

As for the default shell, I thought the same about Linux. *bash* ?
ugh. I'd guess the reason for not changing it to something good like
zsh is that there would inevitably be arguments about *which* shell by
making default. By making it a minimal /bin/sh, the users quickly think
"ugh, this is shite" (like you did) and install their preferred shell
from ports as part of the installation procedure. (Also, people are less
likely to write scripts starting with "#!/bin/sh" and then use loads of
bash specific stuff.) Perhaps it would be nice if the default install
explicitly said at some point "which shell do you want?" and gave a list
of bash, zsh, tcsh, ksh, whatever else there is.  Still, I know where to
send the patches...

>> That would surprise me. How does Linux identify your card? If it's an
>> RTL8139 try the "rl" driver. FreeBSD is certainly happy enough with my
>> cheapy 10/100 Realtek 8139 card. (I only use it at 10Mbps though, and
>> all the other machines use Realtek 8029, aka NE2000 compatible.)
>
> It's an RTL8139 straight into a 100Mbps switch.  I didn't play that long
> really, I'm sure I could have persuaded it eventually.

That should work, I'm sure if you care enough someone could help you. I'd
start by asking what "dmesg | grep rl" says.

> Might have been but I couldn't get the CD image.

I think the problems are being ironed out before it's made (maybe it's
ready now).

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