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5 total messages Started by Mark Chater Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:00
leafnode & /var size
#294
Author: Mark Chater
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:00
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I installed leafnode over the weekend but have had to disable it as my
/var partition is vanishing before my very eyes.  It worked very
nicely for a few hours but had to be stopped when df said I was up
around 85% full on /dev/hda10 and still climbing.    When I installed
the OS (RH6.2) I had little idea what went into /var so took a guess
at how much space and clearly made it too small :(

What I think I need to do is reduce the size of my (far too big) /usr
partition and increase the size of my (far too small) /var, or tell
leafnode not to stick all its files in /var.

I have no idea how to do either and haven't had a great deal of luck
trying to find solutions short of reformat / repartition /
re-installing the entire OS.  My level of experise could be described
as "newbie or just above" so sorry if this is a dumb/innapropriate
question.

I suppose I could unsubscribe some of the demon newsgroups, that would
probably free up loads of MBs, esp demon.service.

Ideas would be very welcome

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Re: leafnode & /var size
#295
Author: stuart
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:00
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in demon.tech.unix,
mark@chater.demon.co.uk (Mark Chater) wrote:

>I have no idea how to do either and haven't had a great deal of luck
>trying to find solutions short of reformat / repartition /
>re-installing the entire OS.

As you have loads of space in /usr why not move the /var/spool/news to something
like /usr/local/news (mv /var/spool/news /usr/local/news) then make a softlink
from the old /var/spool/news to the new /usr/local/news (ln -s /var/spool/news 
/usr/local/news)

All the above has to be done as root and then chown'd to news.news
(cd /usr/local; chown -R news.news news)

If you start running out of space in /usr then you could try expiring
the news earlier. Just edit /etc/leafnode/config.


Hope the above helps
Re: leafnode & /var size
#296
Author: Mark Chater
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:00
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:19:54 +0100, <stuart@trognet.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>As you have loads of space in /usr why not move the /var/spool/news to something
>like /usr/local/news (mv /var/spool/news /usr/local/news) then make a softlink
>from the old /var/spool/news to the new /usr/local/news (ln -s /var/spool/news 
>/usr/local/news)

ta, thats exactly what I needed :).  I was wondering about a soft link
but couldn't sort out how I should do it. Lack of experience showing
there.

Thanks again.



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Re: leafnode & /var size
#297
Author: Ian Northeast
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:00
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stuart@trognet.demon.co.uk wrote:
> 
> in demon.tech.unix,
> mark@chater.demon.co.uk (Mark Chater) wrote:
> 
> >I have no idea how to do either and haven't had a great deal of luck
> >trying to find solutions short of reformat / repartition /
> >re-installing the entire OS.
> 
> As you have loads of space in /usr why not move the /var/spool/news to something
> like /usr/local/news (mv /var/spool/news /usr/local/news) then make a softlink
> from the old /var/spool/news to the new /usr/local/news (ln -s /var/spool/news
> /usr/local/news)
> 
> All the above has to be done as root and then chown'd to news.news
> (cd /usr/local; chown -R news.news news)
> 
> If you start running out of space in /usr then you could try expiring
> the news earlier. Just edit /etc/leafnode/config.
> 
> Hope the above helps

This is fine for a non mission critical system but I would not do it on
anything important. /var is quite a volatile filesystem and /usr isn't
(or shouldn't be). Volatile filesystems are more prone to damage after
failures (even if your software is 100% and never crashes, hardware and
power can fail). Your system will tolerate errors in /var much better
than errors in /usr.

Resizing the filesystems would be best done in single user mode without
them mounted - you can copy them to new partitions and amend /etc/fstab
as appropriate, taking backups (in the most paranoid way) every time it
even occurs to you that it might be necessary. The exact process depends
on the exact layout and needs a little planning, and some free space to
start with. I suspect that the OP's system isn't so critical that he
would want to do this, but he didn't actually state what it does. I
suspect it that isn't the control system of a nuclear reactor:)

Ian
Re: leafnode & /var size
#298
Author: mark
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:00
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:24:36 +0100, Ian Northeast
<ian@house-from-hell.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>start with. I suspect that the OP's system isn't so critical that he
>would want to do this, but he didn't actually state what it does. I
>suspect it that isn't the control system of a nuclear reactor:)
>

Not a nuclear reactor no, but then I don't think I would run leafnode
on the same PC that was controlling my nuclear reactor :) It merely
serves as a router to share an internet connection between a couple of
other PCs which run more Gatesian operating systems.  Should it die I
will plug the modem into a Windoze box while I rebuild it.  A nuisance
but hardly a disaster.

However since it has been running for a couple of months without
requiring a reboot and the Windows machines can rarely last more than
a couple of days I do not forsee any problems :)
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