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Re: I have it out for Maxxcorp.

#205
From: MaxxCorp, INC.
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:37
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VERY GOOD POST. Yes I have been SAVED !!!!  I have been turned from
the DARK-SIDE !!!!!   So I am now like a REFORMED ALCHOLIC. Anyway, I
agree with you, but untill others do & we all quit beating up on
everybody then the rules must stay. If I was allowed to post a SERVICE
AD every 2 weeks or so like anybody else could, I wouldnt have a
problem with it. But others before me have determined this is not to
be. So in ways I am going to continue to point out that their is
always a DOUBLE EDGE to any sword.......

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:38:42 -0600, gbfmif <gbfmifDROPTHIS@texoma.net>
wrote:

>this is not a flame
>
>I find it fascinating for what it is worth, that you are now apparently enforcing
>the net charter rules you so vehemently fought when you first posted and were flamed
>for repeatedly. Time has passed and all have come to an accommodation concerning tag
>line and sig size and well - etc. Though this is a sliding scale so ymmv
>
>I don't care about  rules inherently especially in an open forum newsgroups
>concerning dfw.anything (yes I have read the charters, but so what), but after a
>very short time I figure out which posts and threads to just ignore and go on to
>something I may find relevant.
>
>Question
>
>Why is this approach so hard for anyone to implement?  Why do we need newsgroups
>police in the first place? If it is unmoderated, then posters and more importantly
>readers police the group by what they choose to read or not read. Moderated is a
>different deal.
>
>Guess I just don't get it at this level, but then again - Is not required that I
>understand this deal, will continue to just scroll down past what I consider
>irrelevant "stuff" and read what I consider relevant.
>
>"MaxxCorp, INC." wrote:
>
>> Well I have discussed my SIG FILE with quite a few people who I value
>> their opinions. These include people who are in ABUSE depts at Web
>> Hosting companies & ISP's. They see NO PROBLEM with my SIG FILE. But I
>> know you want to control everyone & make them follow you beliefs &
>> values. GET OVER IT !!!!!
>>
>> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 07:10:14 -0600, Bob Peterson
>> <abusereporter0@mail.zgnews.com> wrote:
>>
>> >al <pabbi@swbell.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Bob Peterson wrote:
>> >>> "Jason" <Jason24richardson@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>He just sent a message to abuse@comcast.net to say that I was in violation
>> >>>>of the dfw.forsale charter.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>   He's right.
>> >>>
>> >>>   Your article promoting "Jason's Lawn Service" violates the
>> >>> dfw.forsale charter clause that says, "Non commercial postings only."
>> >>> A lawn service certainly seems to qualify as a commercial enterprise,
>> >>> and you certainly posted an article promoting your company.
>> >>>
>> >>>   And on April 1, 2003, you posted a message saying, "All I do is Mow
>> >>> lawns. I hate it if I loose a customer because of something I can't
>> >>> do."  (See the message thread at
>> >>> http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=42272&page=2&pp=10).  Sounds
>> >>> an awful lot like a commercial enterprise, what with customers and
>> >>> all.
>> >>>
>> >>>   Then there's the entry on Texas Contractor Ratings' Web site
>> >>> (http://www.texascontractorratings.com/contractors/Jason's-Lawn-Service).
>> >>> Seems to be no doubt that "Jason's Lawn Service" is a commercial
>> >>> operation.
>> >>>
>> >>>   Now, what part of "Non commercial postings only" don't you
>> >>> understand?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Jason
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>   Followups set.
>> >>>
>> >>>     Bob
>> >>
>> >>Any comment about MaxxCorp's sig line, including links to an adult site,
>> >>featuring nudity and intercourse?
>> >
>> >Mentioning one's business in a signature that conforms to the
>> >generally accepted size limits (see the new Usenet user articles
>> >routinely published in news.announce.newusers) is certainly OK.
>> >Mark's .sig clearly exceeds the four line maximum suggested in the
>> >various Netiquette articles, and was, for a time, a point of
>> >discussion.  IMNHO there is a difference between mentioning a business
>> >as part of one's contact information and promoting a business.  Mark
>> >clearly promotes, while most others provide contact information.  Mark
>> >continues to be Mark.
>> >
>> >Mark's behavior, including the businesses he operates and promotes,
>> >simply illuminate the type of person he is.
>> >
>> >>So, if Jason would just sell *something*, and tag a sig line offering
>> >>lawn service, he'd be OK?
>> >
>> >"OK" is a matter of opinion.  Mark can't very well complain about a
>> >message whose body conforms to the newsgroup charter and that includes
>> >a .sig mentioning the poster's business.
>> >
>> >Don't make the mistake of assuming no one is complaining just because
>> >you see no complaints in the newsgroup.
>> >
>> >Bob
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> http://www.MaxxCorp.net - Custom Computer Solutions * SOHO Services
>>
>> http://www.FMCSA.org - A Non-Profit Group Dedicated to Safer Commerical Driving.
>>
>> http://www.DallasSaturdaySocials.com - Dallas Alternative Lifestyle Parties.
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http://www.MaxxCorp.net - Custom Computer Solutions * SOHO Services

http://www.FMCSA.org - A Non-Profit Group Dedicated to Safer Commerical Driving.

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From: "MaxxCorp, INC." <SOHO@MaxxCorp.net>
Newsgroups: dfw.flame
Subject: Re: I have it out for Maxxcorp.
Organization: MaxxCorp, INC.
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