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Article #10131Re: BUSH gives aid and comfort to our enemies
From: Slim
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:17
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:17
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On 2007-07-04 10:54:47 -0400, Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> said:
> On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:54:33 -0400, Joeseph P. Blow <jpblow@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:39:19 GMT, Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:48:20 GMT, Al Giazirra
>>> <alwhoever@realitalianlastname.com > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:42:09 -0500, David Agnew
>>>> <DavidAgnew@nospam.nul> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How many of them outed an undercover CIA agent?
>>>>
>>>> You need to get this into perspective. He didn't out anyone, he just
>>>> wouldn't tell the justice department who did even though the mother
>>>> fucker knew damn well. He was rewarded for his loyalty, something
>>>> that the current sitting president is noted for. The corrupt bastard!
>>>
>>> You fuckin morons crack me up! You are SO stupid, you are hilariously funny!
>>>
>>> Free clue, morons... No one was "outed" No one was covert, therefore
>>> no one could be "outed".
>>
>> Why do you feel the need for such a blatant lie to cover up for your
>> god Bush, neocon?
>
> Post the proof that I lied, moron.
>
> {yea, I know... Libtards are incapable of posting anything rational,
> like "proof".}
Read it an week jackoff.
A FELONY was committed, the Justice Department found filed charges,
went to trail, and Scooter was found GUILTY.
washingtonpost.com
Plame's Identity Marked As Secret
Memo Central to Probe Of Leak Was Written By State Dept. Analyst
By Walter Pincus and Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, July 21, 2005; A01
A classified State Department memorandum central to a federal leak
investigation contained information about CIA officer Valerie Plame in
a paragraph marked "(S)" for secret, a clear indication that any Bush
administration official who read it should have been aware the
information was classified, according to current and former government
officials.
Plame -- who is referred to by her married name, Valerie Wilson, in the
memo -- is mentioned in the second paragraph of the three-page
document, which was written on June 10, 2003, by an analyst in the
State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), according
to a source who described the memo to The Washington Post.
The paragraph identifying her as the wife of former ambassador Joseph
C. Wilson IV was clearly marked to show that it contained classified
material at the "secret" level, two sources said. The CIA classifies as
"secret" the names of officers whose identities are covert, according
to former senior agency officials.
Anyone reading that paragraph should have been aware that it contained
secret information, though that designation was not specifically
attached to Plame's name and did not describe her status as covert, the
sources said. It is a federal crime, punishable by up to 10 years in
prison, for a federal official to knowingly disclose the identity of a
covert CIA official if the person knows the government is trying to
keep it secret.
Prosecutors attempting to determine whether senior government officials
knowingly leaked Plame's identity as a covert CIA operative to the
media are investigating whether White House officials gained access to
information about her from the memo, according to two sources familiar
with the investigation.
The memo may be important to answering three central questions in the
Plame case: Who in the Bush administration knew about Plame's CIA role?
Did they know the agency was trying to protect her identity? And, who
leaked it to the media?
Almost all of the memo is devoted to describing why State Department
intelligence experts did not believe claims that Saddam Hussein had in
the recent past sought to purchase uranium from Niger. Only two
sentences in the seven-sentence paragraph mention Wilson's wife.
The memo was delivered to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell on July 7,
2003, as he headed to Africa for a trip with President Bush aboard Air
Force One. Plame was unmasked in a syndicated column by Robert D. Novak
seven days later.
Wilson has said his wife's identity was revealed to retaliate against
him for accusing the Bush administration of "twisting" intelligence to
justify the Iraq war. In a July 6 opinion piece in the New York Times
and in an interview with The Washington Post, he cited a secret mission
he conducted in February 2002 for the CIA, when he determined there was
no evidence that Iraq was seeking uranium for a nuclear weapons program
in the African nation of Niger.
White House officials discussed Wilson's wife's CIA connection in
telling at least two reporters that she helped arrange his trip,
according to one of the reporters, Matthew Cooper of Time magazine, and
a lawyer familiar with the case.
Prosecutors have shown interest in the memo, especially when they were
questioning White House officials during the early days of the
investigation, people familiar with the probe said.
Karl Rove, President Bush's deputy chief of staff, has testified that
he learned Plame's name from Novak a few days before telling another
reporter she worked at the CIA and played a role in her husband's
mission, according to a lawyer familiar with Rove's account. Rove has
also testified that the first time he saw the State Department memo was
when "people in the special prosecutor's office" showed it to him, said
Robert Luskin, his attorney.
"He had not seen it or heard about it before that time," Luskin said.
Several other administration officials were on the trip to Africa,
including senior adviser Dan Bartlett, then-White House spokesman Ari
Fleischer and others. Bartlett's attorney has refused to discuss the
case, citing requests by the special counsel. Fleischer could not be
reached for comment yesterday.
Rove and Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter"
Libby, have been identified as people who discussed Wilson's wife with
Cooper. Prosecutors are trying to determine the origin of their
knowledge of Plame, including whether it was from the INR memo or from
conversations with reporters.
The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that the memo made it clear
that information about Wilson's wife was sensitive and should not be
shared. Yesterday, sources provided greater detail on the memo to The
Post.
The material in the memo about Wilson's wife was based on notes taken
by an INR analyst who attended a Feb. 19, 2002, meeting at the CIA
where Wilson's intelligence-gathering trip to Niger was discussed.
The memo was drafted June 10, 2003, for Undersecretary of State Marc
Grossman, who asked to be brought up to date on INR's opposition to the
White House view that Hussein was trying to buy uranium in Africa.
The description of Wilson's wife and her role in the Feb. 19, 2002,
meeting at the CIA was considered "a footnote" in a background
paragraph in the memo, according to an official who was aware of the
process.
It records that the INR analyst at the meeting opposed Wilson's trip to
Niger because the State Department, through other inquiries, already
had disproved the allegation that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger.
Attached to the INR memo were the notes taken by the senior INR analyst
who attended the 2002 meeting at the CIA.
On July 6, 2003, shortly after Wilson went public on NBC's "Meet the
Press" and in The Post and the New York Times discussing his trip to
Niger, the INR director at the time, Carl W. Ford Jr., was asked to
explain Wilson's statements for Powell, according to sources familiar
with the events. He went back and reprinted the June 10 memo but
changed the addressee from Grossman to Powell.
Ford last year appeared before the federal grand jury investigating the
leak and described the details surrounding the INR memo, the sources
said. Yesterday he was on vacation in Arkansas, according to his office.
� 2005 The Washington Post Company
--
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after
all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it
is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a
democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to
the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL
THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY
COUNTRY."
�
--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
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