🚀 go-pugleaf

I begin to believe that I am a stone age throwback, no longer viable in
today's economic world as it pertains to "commercial" or even "educational"
radio. Maybe the death of Filmore and Winterland was actually the end of this
era in conjunction with the whole AM/FM Underground concept. (I wonder how
many folks even know what I am referencing)

To answer your question, it was not necessarily new or old songs ("local" or
"commercial" - though I spent a lot of time finding both that would fit
together in a "show") being played (circa end 60 and early 70 per se) nor was
it the jive of the DJ's (though the good ones - in my opinion - refused to cut
off the end of a song with the next song or talk over the end and beginning of
a song with (from my view) idiotic talk, or walk over either with a
commercial), a typical AM deal at the time - and sure were not the high speed
hype of AM or even early FM DJ's (I can still do both voices and deliveries)
but the "good ones" were the ones who took some time to set up a set of songs
and then execute the set (yes, half the time the DJ sounded somewhat wasted,
however, so were most of the listeners at that time - lets be real - mid to
late 60's early 70's FM (or for KAAY Little Rock - AM and others) late at
night "underground" radio, most of us listening were wasted - least I was, as
were most everyone I knew - (maybe that's why I liked it - no judgment - just
experience the sounds) and lets not forget the background "theme" usually
played while the DJ was on - and as best possible (for my part)  if  a song
ended on a drum roll, I fed the next song in the set that started with a drum
roll (hard to do, and sometimes you had to go with the background underlying
harmonics of song one which was consistent with the underlying harmonics of
song two and sometimes the verbal theme of song one fit with the verbal theme
of song two and sometimes, you just had to make a break from lets say a
sequence of Black Sabbath to Vanilla Fudge to something totally different like
Virgil Fox) (remember to back announce at least every hour or if you had to
make a set break, back announce and set up the next set)

This approach also encompassed usually playing LONG cuts intermixed with the 3
minute wonders (Legend of the USS Titanic - Jamie Brockett, fit reasonably
well with McKendry Springs - Flying Dutchman, which could go to Kraftwerk -
Trans Europe Express.- (lets not mention Tonto's Expanding Head Band and White
Elephant and It's a Beautiful Day and Calling Occupants of Interplanetary
Craft and Major Tong and BareFoot Jerry - Funny Lookin Eyes and Vigilante Man
or Hawkwind or - well the list goes on) If you were going to do short song
sets, then Classics 4 - Spooky could work with Lemon Pipers - Green Tambourine
and on a good night after a few more of this ilk, you could slip in Dylan -
Subterranean Homesick Blues before hitting Moody Blues - Timothy Leary.

Am not sure this makes any sense to anyone who has not sat at a console
connected to a transmitter and blown off the corporate play list and
commercial announcement requirements (do the station Id at 12 and 6
religiously) and tried to program a show of music (regardless of local or
commercial or management requirements) and got away with it.

If Clyde Clifford (KAAY Little Rock - Beaker Street) was on today, I would
still drop anything I was doing to listen to his show, every night, no matter
how broken my reception might be.

Am not sure this answers your question, but describes to some degree the
passion and loyalty I had to these radio "shows"



Tom Hendricks wrote:

> gbfmif wrote:
>
> > I look at news groups somewhat infrequently and post erratically (or not
> > at all - and there may be many folks who wish I never did). In any case,
> > am amazed at the number of responses both pro and con (civil and
> > hostile) to this whole subject when compared to other discussions on the
> > dfw news group. From my view, some nerve was hit.
> >
> > To be honest, without being aware of the whole boycott thing - till I
> > went further back in newsgroups time after the fact - I asked about,
> > what I thought, was current radio station DJ's who were presently
> > allowed, or just did, play "radio shows" comparable to the old KAAY
> > Little Rock Beaker Street, MOD Washington and KINT El Paso underground
> > "shows" to name a few or if folks missed these "shows" as I do (thanks
> > to the folks who pointed me to various locations) as I thought these
> > "shows" would have a huge audience if available today (I specified I am
> > an old fart, however, there are a bunch of us out there)
> >
> > The majority of response, however,  has been about (again from my view)
> > artist ego and posturing and local versus national and the big 5 and
> > promoters and boycott and the cost of air play and - well lots of other
> > stuff, BUT, not one response (as best I can tell) from a DJ (old or new)
> > who even has an idea of what I am talking about.
> >
> > I have been out of the game a long time (and never thought I was of the
> > caliber of the "show" DJ's I tried to emulate), still, I find it hard to
> > accept that there are not folks out there who can remember these "shows"
> > who would drop anything and everything to tune in, who would not like to
> > have these "shows" (using old and new talent) available again.
> >
> > Did it all die with Fillmore and Winterland and the late 60's and early
> > 70's underground radio "shows" never to resurrect or has someone jut not
> > realized the (from my view cash cow) potential? (no, I can not afford -
> > or have the energy or interest -  to build a radio station again - sure
> > as heck not in this economy - but there are commercial stations out
> > there today which want advertising dollars that I think are missing a
> > sure bet)
> >
> > I said Troll in subject - but also think there are some valid issues and
> > questions raised not yet addressed. (Ignore and delete of subject also
> > works)
>
> They would have to fit in with these huge corporations plans for profit.
> I would think that the 60's and 70's were a more open time for radio, a
> more
> experimental time. Maybe a lot of this came from FM starting up, and
> leaving AM top 40 behind and trying something new.
>
> As you know I support a variety of voices, and I'd love to see this
> But tell me more. What was so special about these shows that kept your
> interest? - the new music? the dj's comments? etc.
>
> Tom Hendricks, editor of the zine Musea
> http://musea.digitalchainsaw.com