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Re: ! Record Southern Lows: its climate change, stupid!

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From: Bill Carter
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:16
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Stupendous Man wrote:
> Bill Carter wrote:
> 
>>
>>>      And before you think I've been debunked on global warming you 
>>> should consider the following - 
>>> http://reasic.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/the-great-global-warming-swindle-questions-answered/, 
>>> and - Forecaster Blasts Gore on Global Warming -
>>> http://enews.earthlink.net/article/pol?guid=20070406/4615c5c0_3ca6_1552620070406-256774162; 
>>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know where you stand on this issue but those two articles are in
>> opposition to each other. Did you read them?
>>
>      It's all funny when you stop to think about it!  The same computers 
> and computer programs, that they use to forecast next week's weather, 
> and still don't get it right, are the same computers and computer 
> programs they are using to make decade long predictions on weather!

So you didn't read the articles before you posted the links? Seems like
that would be kind of embarrassing. I'm no climate scientist, but I
suspect there is a whole different set of programming issues involved
with modelling global climate over a period many years on the one hand,
and coming up with a short-term forecast of the local weather on the
other. When the climatologists tell me that the southwestern US is going
to turn into a dust bowl pretty quick though, I pay close attention. Maybe
I should buy property in Canada; http://tinyurl.com/2z32ha

>      Here's another point to consider, don't you think it funny that we 
> are experiencing global warming on 4 of the solar systems 9 planets?     
> If Solar Cycles don't drive the temperature change in the climate,
> then can you kindly explain why global warming is simultaneously
> happening on Mars
> (http://www.space.com:80/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html),
> Jupiter
> (http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/04/21_jupiter.shtml),
> and Pluto
> (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html)?  Now
> explain how Solar Cycles don't drive the same temperature change and
> global warming that we see on the earth, along with the simultaneous
> global warming that is occurring on Mars, Jupiter, and Pluto?

I love space.com, I check that website every day. If you read those
articles carefully (you didn't read these either?) you will see the
explanations for their temperature trends. It has nothing to do with
what is happening on Earth.

Pluto;
"The increasing temperatures are more likely explained by two simple
facts: Pluto's highly elliptical orbit significantly changes the planet's
distance from the Sun during its long "year," which lasts 248 Earth years;
and unlike most of the planets, Pluto's axis is nearly in line with the
orbital plane, tipped 122 degrees. Earth's axis is tilted 23.5 degrees."

Jupiter;
"Once enough vortices are gone, the planet's atmosphere will warm at the
equator and cool at the poles by as much as 10 degrees Celsius in each
region, which is stage three of the climate cycle."

Mars;
"There appears to be too much frozen water at low-latitude regions -- away
from the frigid poles -- given the current climate of Mars. The situation
is not in equilibrium, said William Feldman of the Los Alamos National
Laboratory." This is the sum total of the evidence of warming after one
year of study. Planets naturally undergo climate change it is true.

Also see this;
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060914095559.htm

"Changes in the Sun's brightness over the past millennium have had only a
small effect on Earth's climate, according to a review of existing results
and new calculations performed by researchers in the United States,
Switzerland, and Germany."

> 
>      Here's a better film for you to watch - 
> http://www.totaleclips.com/player/SplashDisney.aspx?custid=3&playerid=2&clipid=e26370

Link didn't work for me Stupendous Man.

> 
> 
>                         Stupendous Man
> 
>                         http://www.myspace.com/stupendousleague
> 
> PS> I am a member of the League of Stupendous Gentlemen! ;)

I am thinking 'not so great boy' at this point.
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