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In news:ehs663h1takqro82ecp1q7resshvsje2ta@4ax.com,
Bat T Ball <ballbat@rangerscantwin.com>spewed forth:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 08:29:36 -0600, tom spillman
> <nospam@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Bat T Ball wrote:
>>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:12:27 GMT, bl@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 22:29:50 -0400, Slim <slim@pickins.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2007-06-01 19:52:47 -0400, John Mayson <john@mayson.us> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 30 May 2007, Trace wrote:
>>>>>>> Houston-based KBR, formerly the engineering and construction
>>>>>>> subsidiary of Halliburton Co., has a contingency contract in
>>>>>>> place with the Department of Homeland Security to construct
>>>>>>> detention facilities in the event of a national emergency.
>>>>>> Stories are federal detention/concetration camps have been
>>>>>> circulating at least since the early 90's (and probably sooner).
>>>>>> Why should we believe this one any more than the dozens that
>>>>>> have come before it?
>>>>> Because some of the stories are REAL.
>>>> It's hard to convince the brain dead middle class assholes who get
>>>> their news from AM that anything that doesn't involve stuffing
>>>> their faces, celebrity gossip, filling up their cars or paying the
>>>> mortgage, exists.  Fuck them.
>>>
>>> And which one of you gave this awesome and unconstitutional power to
>>> the Feds while jerking your knee after 9-11? Which one of you gave
>>> the vote of confidence to the current legislature by reelecting
>>> them? Is there anyone actually staying on the dark side and
>>> considering the failure from NYC as a presidential candidate?
>>> Damage done to our freedom was far worse than was done physically
>>> after the criminal action by the terrorists.  How about actually
>>> looking at the candidates this next election and thinking of the
>>> republic as a whole and not your own hole as a republic.
>>>
>>
>> You said:
>>
>> "Damage done to our
>> freedom was far worse than was done physically after the criminal
>> action by the terrorists."
>>
>> Perhaps you can enlighten me.  I, personally, have lost *NO*
>> freedoms, nor do I know *anyone* who has.  I feel as free now, as I
>> did before the current administration. After all, I have lived
>> through the administrations of FDR, HST, Eisenhower, Kennedy, LBJ,
>> Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush II.  Vague
>> generalities will not be accepted, at least by me.  I lived through
>> both WWII and the Korean War where I served.  I was deployed to a
>> combat area longer than Senator Kerry and also earned a few minor
>> decorations, so if you are talking about "rights" for our detainees,
>> you will have to explain why we didn't give equivalent rights to the
>> Germans, Japanese, Italians, North Koreans and Chinese captured in
>> those wars.
>>
>> Likewise, what candidates would you suggest?  I have looked
>>  carefully at ALL of the candidates in both major parties and I have
>> found *none* that I would be willing to vote FOR.  I have found a
>> number in both parties I would vote AGAINST.  The Democrats show
>> little understanding of even Economics 101, much less larger issues
>> of macroeconomics.  They actually seem to assume that price controls
>> and excess profits taxes will *help*.  Apparently, they don't
>> remember the Carter administration's results during the Arab boycott
>> of the 1970's. Remember the gasoline shortages and long lines at the
>> service stations?
>>
>> They also have not learned from the mistakes of the British and
>> Canadians on health care and seem to want to bring those same
>> problems of rationing of care and long waiting lists here.  If my
>> wife and I were under either of their systems, we would both likely
>> be dead now.  We both have been successfully treated for cancer
>> starting in 1999 and 2000 and we're both still here.  With cancer,
>> prompt treatment is essential.
>>
>> I have lived for an extended period in the UK while on business
>> assignments and also was a manager on a new project in Toronto where
>> my wife and I were exposed the the realities of the UK heath care
>> and the Canadian system. Likewise, the Republicans, as a group, seem
>> much too theocratic for my taste.
>>
>> I will await your enlightenment.  BTW, flaming will be ignored, and I
>> will listen to reasoned discourse.  I will *plonk* flames or
>> profanity.
>>
>> It is your choice.
>>
>> Regards...
>>
>> Tom
>
>
> Then go ahead and plonk, nitwit.  You're either too blind or too
> stupid to know what's going on.

are you to stupid to enlighten us?
here's your chance to show that you're smarter than a 5th grader and Rosie.
defend your claim of our loss of freedoms.
I'll even start the numbers for ya
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I figure that 10 is way more than you can come up with, so I'll quit there.