🚀 go-pugleaf

tom spillman wrote:

> Slim wrote:
> 
>>
>> Even a NeoCon lover like you has to admit that the government has 
>> taken a way our right to privacy.
>>
> 
> When?
> 
>>  From monitoring our library book checkouts, 
> 
> 
> I have been checking out books from libraries for over sixty years, 
> occasionally even on controversial subjects and I have had no indication 
> of any such surveillance.  As i understand it, the government has the 
> right that has never been used IIRC, to check such records if their is 
> sufficient cause.  I also frequent bookstores regularly, so perhaps I 
> should be worried <G>
> 
>> to tapping our phones and email.
> 
> 
> The NSA has been doing such surveillance since its inception in 1952. 
> This is hardly a new development.  I had a friend who worked on some of 
> the original computer systems involved.  Since it began, they have been 
> looking for key phrases, words and the like, to see if more surveillance 
> is justified.  Which administration are you going to blame?  DDE was 
> President in 1952, IIRC, and there have been a number other presidents 
> of both parties since then.
> 

Er, did you mean HST (Harry S. Truman)?

Eisenhower was elected in '52 but didn't take office until 1/53.




>>
>> Now tell me there is no such right.
> 
> 
> Where is such a right spelled out?  It is *not* in the constitution.
> 
>>
>> You don't care because you are one of the lemmings who parrot the 
>> phrase, " I have nothing to hide."
>>
> 
> *I* don't have anything to hide and I have never been bothered by such 
> surveillance nor do I know anyone who has been victimized.  How have you 
> been harmed?  The NSA has been monitoring communications for more years 
> than you have been alive.
> 
>> Its not about hiding anything, its about having the freedom to check 
>> out books, and send email and make phone calls without the government 
>> spying on us.
>>
> 
> This is a scary attitude, to me.  I have no problem with the government 
> trying to prevent terrorists from succeeding in another 9/11 attack.
> 
> Obviously, you feel differently.  That is your right and it is my right 
> to oppose political parties and candidates that agree with you.
> 
> Regards...
> 
> Tom
> 


One should bear in mind that the country has never faced a greater peril 
than is the case currently.

Even with my disdain of the guv'ment, I don't expect the black 
helicopters to bother with the likes of me.

JT