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Article #3287Re: Warning Warning Warning: Federal Internment Camps Coming
From: Slim
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:08
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:08
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On 2007-06-07 10:53:03 -0400, "ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> said: > In news:46678546$0$9936$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, > Slim <slim@pickins.com>spewed forth: >> On 2007-06-06 19:57:33 -0400, "ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> said: >> >>> In news:44he6353f0no7rtf4kuu2dondjegfs2aka@4ax.com, >>> Bat T Ball <ballbat@rangerscantwin.com>spewed forth: >>>> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:47:40 GMT, Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:12:48 GMT, Bat T Ball >>>>> <ballbat@rangerscantwin.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Don't bother with them, Slim. As they call me and others stupid, >>>>>> they are actually too blind to realize what's been going on. You >>>>>> can hit 'em in the head with a hammer and they still won't admit >>>>>> what the government has done. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Like blow up the WTC back on 9-11-01? >>>>> >>>>> You morons are hilarious! >>>>> >>>>> Mike Smith >>>> >>>> Always the ass hole. >>> >>> And when you and Slim come up with ACTUAL facts with what the "gvnmt" >>> has done, is doing, or going to do and not just spouting rhetoric >>> that you hear all day in the media. Then maybe someone "might" >>> listen to you. Evidently some of us can still think and deduce >>> better than you and slim, even after being hit with a hammer. >> >> >> FUCK YOU. DON'T PLAY COY. >> >> FBI demands library records >> Request in Connecticut, allowed by Patriot Act, is first of its kind >> Eric Lichtblau, New York Times >> Friday, August 26, 2005 >> Because of federal secrecy requirements, the ACLU said it was barred >> from disclosing the identity of the institution or other details of >> the FBI's demand, but court papers indicate the target is a library >> in the Bridgeport, Conn., area. >> The ACLU said it would seek an emergency order allowing it to discuss >> details of the case publicly. A hearing has been set for Wednesday in >> federal court in Bridgeport. > > > Fuck you. > You come up with one case almost a year old with no current info or how > the ACLU hearing came out. > I'd say you're grasping, especially without more details. > For all we know, it could have been completely justified. > Could've been the reading habits of the fucker they arrested for trying > to blow up JFK. > How the fuck do you know? You just WANT to believe it's big bad Bush. > There obviously is no follow up story as to the outcome or you would > have quoted it too. > Search carnivore and get back to me about who fucked your privacy > first. You also must believe that a democrat would NEVER deny your > privacy. > Tell that to all the people Hillary had the FBI investigate. > Sorry, I have to go now, a cloud just hit me in the head and I have to > go find a shelter. Published on Monday, June 24, 2002 by the Associated Press FBI Begins Visiting Libraries by Christopher Newton WASHINGTON –– The FBI is visiting libraries nationwide and checking the reading records of people it suspects of having ties to terrorists or plotting an attack, library officials say. The FBI effort, authorized by the antiterrorism law enacted after the Sept. 11 attacks, is the first broad government check of library records since the 1970s when prosecutors reined in the practice for fear of abuses. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment Monday, except to note that such searches are now legal under the Patriot Act that President Bush signed last October. Libraries across the nation were reluctant to discuss their dealings with the FBI. The same law that makes the searches legal also makes it a criminal offense for librarians to reveal the details or extent. "Patron information is sacrosanct here. It's nobody's business what you read," said Kari Hanson, director of the Bridgeview Public Library in suburban Chicago. Hanson said an FBI agent came seeking information about a person, but her library had no record of the person. Federal prosecutors allege Global Relief Foundation, an Islamic charity based in the Chicago suburb, has ties to Osama bin Laden's terror network The University of Illinois conducted a survey of 1,020 public libraries in January and February and found that 85 libraries had been asked by federal or local law enforcement officers for information about patrons related to Sept. 11, said Ed Lakner, assistant director of research at the school's Library Research Center. The libraries that reported FBI contacts were nearly all in large urban areas. In Florida, Broward County library director Sam Morrison said the FBI had recently contacted his office. He declined to elaborate on the request or how many branch libraries were involved. "We've heard from them and that's all I can tell you," Morrison said. He said the FBI specifically instructed him not to reveal any information about the request. The library system has been contacted before. A week after the Sept. 11 attacks, the FBI subpoenaed Morrison to provide information on the possible use of computer terminals by some of the suspected hijackers in the Hollywood, Fla., area. In October, investigators revisited the county's main library in Fort Lauderdale and also checked a regional library in Coral Springs. At least 15 of the 19 hijackers had Florida connections. The process by which the FBI gains access to library records is quick and mostly secret under the Patriot Act. First, the FBI must obtain a search warrant from a court that meets in secret to hear the agency's case. The FBI must show it has reason to suspect that a person is involved with a terrorist or a terrorist plot – far less difficult than meeting the tougher legal standards of probable cause, required for traditional search warrants or reasonable doubt, required for convictions. With the warrant, FBI investigators can visit a library and gain immediate access to the records. Judith Krug, the American Library Association's director for intellectual freedom, said the FBI was treading on the rights it is supposed to be upholding. "It's unfortunate because these records and this information can be had with so little reason or explanation," Krug said. "It's super secret and anyone who wants to talk about what the FBI did at their library faces prosecution. That has nothing to do with patriotism." Krug tells worried librarians who call that they should keep only the records they need and should discard records that would reveal which patron checked out a book and for how long. She is frustrated by the hate mail she says she receives when she speaks out against the Patriot Act. "People are scared and they think that by giving up their rights, especially their right to privacy, they will be safe," Krug said. "But it wasn't the right to privacy that let terrorists into our nation. It had nothing to do with libraries or library records." Some libraries said they will still resist government efforts to obtain records. Pat McCandless, assistant director for public services for Ohio State University's libraries, said, "State law and professional ethics say we do not convey patron information and that is still our stance. "To the best of our ability, we would try to support patron confidentiality," she said. Copyright © 2002 The Associated Press -- "Hate Week is officially celebrated from April 4th to April 10th. The events during that time include waxwork displays, military parades, speeches and lectures. New slogans are also coined and new songs are written. The theme of the Hate Week is called the Hate Song. It is mentioned that a unit from the Fiction Department was assigned to make atrocity pamphlets (falsified reports of atrocities committed by Oceania's enemies against her) designed to stimulate Oceania's populace further into enraged frenzy against all enemies. The aggregate effect of Hate Week thus is to excite the populace to such a point that they "would unquestionably have torn to pieces" if given the opportunity." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_week http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/1
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