🚀 go-pugleaf

On 2007-07-02 22:45:26 -0400, CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> said:

> leroyblue@pillinor.net wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:26:36 -0500, CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Zeno wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:32:16 -0400, Slim <slim@pickins.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Our invasion happened because of the hundreds of thousands of INNOCENT
>>>>>> IRAQIS WHO WERE KILLED BY SADDAM. The tens of thousands that have been
>>>>>> killed since the invasion are the responsibly of the Islamic (al
>>>>>> Quada) terrorist who are trying to take over Iraq for a base from
>>>>>> which to spread their radical religion. Didn't you know that? I
>>>>>> thought surely that would have been explained to you when you attended
>>>>>> your first radical Islamic Terrorist conclave
>>>>> 
>>>>> What a crock of shit.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes Slim, both Saddam and al Qaeda are criminals.  Everyone seems to
>>>> know that except you and criminal supporting friends.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Saddam is dead.  He never did us much harm.  Bush has done us much more
>>> harm.  He's got us mediating a civil war in Iraq, and has degraded our
>>> liberties at home.
>> 
>> 
>> So, you would rather have extremist Muslim of al Quada and the
>> jihadist of Islam controlling what's going on. Interesting to say the
>> least. Your Doctor friends have been busy in the UK this last few
>> days. Will you be joining in soon?
> 
> That's a false choice.  A strawman.  The true alternative is to dump
> the current "strategy" and do something that works.  It would have been
> much easier before Bush "shocked and awed" the Middle East on his way to
> "mission accomplished," but unfortunately we can't turn back the clock.
> 
> Nobody ever hears from Condie any more (did we ever?).  Obviously,
> diplomacy isn't valued by Bush.  Somebody else needs to take over who
> DOES understand (and is willing to use) diplomacy.

You mean someone NOT sucking at the trough of taxpayer blood money
that has Halliburton or KBR written all over it?

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England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after 
all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it 
is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a 
democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist 
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to 
the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL 
THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of 
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY 
COUNTRY."
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