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Re: Police "de-infest areas where gays congregate"

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From: Otto Graham's Cleats
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:01
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"Recriminalize Gays" <anon@anon.anon> wrote in message 
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> Kick their dirty disease carrying asses clear out of the state.
> Send them to a gay loving state who wants the loathsome creeps.
>
> http://www.q-notes.com/4632/james-police-de-infest-areas-where-
> gays-congregate/
>
> CHARLOTTE - Two area LGBT youth service and advocacy groups are
> condemning an anti-gay slur and other comments made by
> Republican Mecklenburg County Commissioner Bill James, and
> demanding an immediate reprimand of his actions at the Dec. 15
> commissioners meeting in which domestic partner benefits were
> approved for same-sex partners of county employees.
>
> The groups' strong statement comes as more comments from James
> are made public, including his assertion that police are working
> to "de-infest" areas where gays "congregate."
>
> On Dec. 17, the local Time Out Youth and national, Charlotte-
> based Campus Pride released a joint statement condemning James'
> comments following Democrat Commissioner Vilma Leake's personal
> and passionate story about her son's 1993 death to AIDS. After
> she spoke, James leaned over to her and asked, "Your son was a
> homo, really?"
>
> "Commissioner Bill James' remarks are nothing but intolerant and
> harmful to our area youth," said Steve Bentley, executive
> director of Time Out Youth. "There is no reason why a young
> LGBTQ person should have to hear such disdain and hateful
> rhetoric from a public official who is elected to represent
> them."
>
> Time Out Youth, founded in the early 1990s, is a support,
> services and advocacy organization for LGBT youth ages 13-23.
>
> Bentley added, "There are young people who are victims of
> depression and even suicide because of hateful slurs and
> comments like that of Commissioner James. Elected leaders are
> expected to be positive role models for our youth. We need to
> hold Commissioner James accountable for his actions."
>
> Campus Pride, a national organization for LGBT college students,
> released comments in the same statement.
>
> "Commissioner Bill James crossed the line with his anti-LGBT
> remarks. Once again, he has made a desperate bid for attention
> in a public board meeting at the price of others," said Campus
> Pride Executive Director Shane Windmeyer. "More and more, fair
> minded citizens believe that there's no place for this kind of
> bigotry. Commissioner James needs to apologize to Commissioner
> Leake for his comments and we demand an immediate reprimand for
> his abhorrent actions at the public meeting."
>
> Windmeyer said the repercussions of anti-gay language toward
> LGBT youth "are immeasurable." He said Mecklenburg County and
> Charlotte "deserve public officials who can show a modicum of
> respect for the office they hold and demonstrate civility for
> all people in public discourse."
>
> Bentley's and Windmeyer's organizations are demanding an
> immediate reprimand of James by the Mecklenburg County Board of
> Commissioners.
>
> The controversy surroundings James' comments has continued
> throughout the week as the GOP commissioner told media he would
> not apologize for his remarks. In a statement emailed to
> Charlotte Observer editorial staff, James said he was simply
> asking Leake to clarify her statements about her son, that his
> comments weren't meant to be derogatory and that "homo" was a
> slang word he used when growing up.
>
> "People can believe whatever they want, they can believe in the
> tooth fairy and legend of Atlantis," James said. "I don't
> determine what I do based on what people think. I determine it
> based on what I did and what I did was I asked a question and
> that question doesn't deserve or require an apology."
>
> Commission Chair Jennifer Roberts told Q-Notes that reprimand is
> an option on the table, although she's uncertain what that might
> look like.
>
> "I'm not sure what real disciplinary action we could take . what
> I think we can do is some kind of reprimand," she said. "I've
> got to think about the terminology to be used. We can make some
> kind of statement that clearly indicates this type of behavior -
> in terms of calling names in the public, on the microphone after
> a fellow commissioner has been so passionate and emotional - is
> inappropriate and sets a bad example and we will not tolerate
> it. That is the kind of thing we can do."
>
> Roberts added, "There are other terms - rebuke, reprimand. I'm
> not sure calling it something different has any different,
> practical effect."
>
> In an email to a Charlotte resident, James made the argument
> that homosexual behavior was still illegal, and that police are
> "de-infesting" areas where gays congregate.
>
> James wrote: "Homosexual conduct is illegal in NC (even after
> Lawrence V Texas). We arrest 250 homosexuals each year in
> Mecklenburg alone for either a 'crime against nature' or
> 'solicitation of a crime against nature'. Unlike prostitution
> (exchanging money), even suggesting homosexual sex is a criminal
> offense in NC. If we were all that 'progressive' would we be
> arresting 250 homosexuals a year? Setting up sting operations to
> de-infest areas where they congregate? Point is, if you want to
> delude yourself that homosexual conduct is 'ok' go ahead. The
> law, the police and the DA however have a different view."
>
> The Charlotte resident, who admits his initial email to James
> was a bit harsh, was shocked to see the commissioner's response.
>
> "I know my original e mail was harsh, but it was in no way
> threatening - I find his abusive, threatening, and ignorant,"
> the resident said in an email to Q-Notes.
>
> Q-Notes asked James about his use of the word "de-infest" and if
> he saw how it might be offensive to LGBT people.
>
> James responded: "I think that if you're someone who is
> homosexual and you believe that you are born that way and have
> every right to engage in that behavior, I think the offensive
> thing, I would surmise, is not the word 'infest' or 'de-infest'
> but the fact that the police are actually doing the sting
> operations. We can parse words - what phrase should I have used?
> But the central question for most people is not what particular
> term got used but whether the action was occurring. Was I
> accurate in saying there are these sting operations going on and
> those sting operations - whatever term you want to use - target
> homosexual men? That is why the county took and spent
> significant amounts of money to rework the park to take out
> certain landscaping things to prevent, once the sting operations
> cleared them out, prevent them from re-congregating - or re-
> infesting if you use my original term."
>
> James said he is a proponent of rigorous debate, but thinks LGBT
> rights opponents are "dancing around the subject" of the law.
>
> "When someone trots out Lawrence v. Texas, I trot out the arrest
> statistics," he said. "I say if Lawrence v. Texas is the law of
> the land, why are there all these arrests? And that ends the
> discussion usually."
>
> The Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas (2003) struck
> down the use of "crimes against nature" laws to prosecute
> private sexual behavior between consenting adults, although it
> is still used in cases involving public sex, prostitution, child
> abuse and domestic violence, rape and bestiality. The "crimes
> against nature" law remains on the books in North Carolina and,
> despite the 2003 Supreme Court decision, has been incorrectly
> used to charge consenting adults engaging in private, sexual
> behavior.
>
>
>

Too bad we can't "de-infest" our country of all of these bigoted right-wing 
morons. 
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