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Re: Police "de-infest areas where gays congregate"

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From: Ivan Skavinsky Skavar
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:39
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In article <hghj7a$brj$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "Otto Graham's Cleats" <otto@cleats.org> wrote:

> "Recriminalize Gays" <anon@anon.anon> wrote in message 
> news:85YLGW9940166.4980439815@reece.net.au...
> > Kick their dirty disease carrying asses clear out of the state.
> > Send them to a gay loving state who wants the loathsome creeps.
> >
> > http://www.q-notes.com/4632/james-police-de-infest-areas-where-
> > gays-congregate/
> >
> > CHARLOTTE - Two area LGBT youth service and advocacy groups are
> > condemning an anti-gay slur and other comments made by
> > Republican Mecklenburg County Commissioner Bill James, and
> > demanding an immediate reprimand of his actions at the Dec. 15
> > commissioners meeting in which domestic partner benefits were
> > approved for same-sex partners of county employees.
> >
> > The groups' strong statement comes as more comments from James
> > are made public, including his assertion that police are working
> > to "de-infest" areas where gays "congregate."
> >
> > On Dec. 17, the local Time Out Youth and national, Charlotte-
> > based Campus Pride released a joint statement condemning James'
> > comments following Democrat Commissioner Vilma Leake's personal
> > and passionate story about her son's 1993 death to AIDS. After
> > she spoke, James leaned over to her and asked, "Your son was a
> > homo, really?"
> >
> > "Commissioner Bill James' remarks are nothing but intolerant and
> > harmful to our area youth," said Steve Bentley, executive
> > director of Time Out Youth. "There is no reason why a young
> > LGBTQ person should have to hear such disdain and hateful
> > rhetoric from a public official who is elected to represent
> > them."
> >
> > Time Out Youth, founded in the early 1990s, is a support,
> > services and advocacy organization for LGBT youth ages 13-23.
> >
> > Bentley added, "There are young people who are victims of
> > depression and even suicide because of hateful slurs and
> > comments like that of Commissioner James. Elected leaders are
> > expected to be positive role models for our youth. We need to
> > hold Commissioner James accountable for his actions."
> >
> > Campus Pride, a national organization for LGBT college students,
> > released comments in the same statement.
> >
> > "Commissioner Bill James crossed the line with his anti-LGBT
> > remarks. Once again, he has made a desperate bid for attention
> > in a public board meeting at the price of others," said Campus
> > Pride Executive Director Shane Windmeyer. "More and more, fair
> > minded citizens believe that there's no place for this kind of
> > bigotry. Commissioner James needs to apologize to Commissioner
> > Leake for his comments and we demand an immediate reprimand for
> > his abhorrent actions at the public meeting."
> >
> > Windmeyer said the repercussions of anti-gay language toward
> > LGBT youth "are immeasurable." He said Mecklenburg County and
> > Charlotte "deserve public officials who can show a modicum of
> > respect for the office they hold and demonstrate civility for
> > all people in public discourse."
> >
> > Bentley's and Windmeyer's organizations are demanding an
> > immediate reprimand of James by the Mecklenburg County Board of
> > Commissioners.
> >
> > The controversy surroundings James' comments has continued
> > throughout the week as the GOP commissioner told media he would
> > not apologize for his remarks. In a statement emailed to
> > Charlotte Observer editorial staff, James said he was simply
> > asking Leake to clarify her statements about her son, that his
> > comments weren't meant to be derogatory and that "homo" was a
> > slang word he used when growing up.
> >
> > "People can believe whatever they want, they can believe in the
> > tooth fairy and legend of Atlantis," James said. "I don't
> > determine what I do based on what people think. I determine it
> > based on what I did and what I did was I asked a question and
> > that question doesn't deserve or require an apology."
> >
> > Commission Chair Jennifer Roberts told Q-Notes that reprimand is
> > an option on the table, although she's uncertain what that might
> > look like.
> >
> > "I'm not sure what real disciplinary action we could take . what
> > I think we can do is some kind of reprimand," she said. "I've
> > got to think about the terminology to be used. We can make some
> > kind of statement that clearly indicates this type of behavior -
> > in terms of calling names in the public, on the microphone after
> > a fellow commissioner has been so passionate and emotional - is
> > inappropriate and sets a bad example and we will not tolerate
> > it. That is the kind of thing we can do."
> >
> > Roberts added, "There are other terms - rebuke, reprimand. I'm
> > not sure calling it something different has any different,
> > practical effect."
> >
> > In an email to a Charlotte resident, James made the argument
> > that homosexual behavior was still illegal, and that police are
> > "de-infesting" areas where gays congregate.
> >
> > James wrote: "Homosexual conduct is illegal in NC (even after
> > Lawrence V Texas). We arrest 250 homosexuals each year in
> > Mecklenburg alone for either a 'crime against nature' or
> > 'solicitation of a crime against nature'. Unlike prostitution
> > (exchanging money), even suggesting homosexual sex is a criminal
> > offense in NC. If we were all that 'progressive' would we be
> > arresting 250 homosexuals a year? Setting up sting operations to
> > de-infest areas where they congregate? Point is, if you want to
> > delude yourself that homosexual conduct is 'ok' go ahead. The
> > law, the police and the DA however have a different view."
> >
> > The Charlotte resident, who admits his initial email to James
> > was a bit harsh, was shocked to see the commissioner's response.
> >
> > "I know my original e mail was harsh, but it was in no way
> > threatening - I find his abusive, threatening, and ignorant,"
> > the resident said in an email to Q-Notes.
> >
> > Q-Notes asked James about his use of the word "de-infest" and if
> > he saw how it might be offensive to LGBT people.
> >
> > James responded: "I think that if you're someone who is
> > homosexual and you believe that you are born that way and have
> > every right to engage in that behavior, I think the offensive
> > thing, I would surmise, is not the word 'infest' or 'de-infest'
> > but the fact that the police are actually doing the sting
> > operations. We can parse words - what phrase should I have used?
> > But the central question for most people is not what particular
> > term got used but whether the action was occurring. Was I
> > accurate in saying there are these sting operations going on and
> > those sting operations - whatever term you want to use - target
> > homosexual men? That is why the county took and spent
> > significant amounts of money to rework the park to take out
> > certain landscaping things to prevent, once the sting operations
> > cleared them out, prevent them from re-congregating - or re-
> > infesting if you use my original term."
> >
> > James said he is a proponent of rigorous debate, but thinks LGBT
> > rights opponents are "dancing around the subject" of the law.
> >
> > "When someone trots out Lawrence v. Texas, I trot out the arrest
> > statistics," he said. "I say if Lawrence v. Texas is the law of
> > the land, why are there all these arrests? And that ends the
> > discussion usually."
> >
> > The Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas (2003) struck
> > down the use of "crimes against nature" laws to prosecute
> > private sexual behavior between consenting adults, although it
> > is still used in cases involving public sex, prostitution, child
> > abuse and domestic violence, rape and bestiality. The "crimes
> > against nature" law remains on the books in North Carolina and,
> > despite the 2003 Supreme Court decision, has been incorrectly
> > used to charge consenting adults engaging in private, sexual
> > behavior.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Too bad we can't "de-infest" our country of all of these bigoted right-wing 
> morons. 

Who would provide all the jobs and tax money then?
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