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SteveR <tex_driver@comcast.net>  wrote :

> In article <yOudnfDxx-IO7aTZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@forethought.net>,
>  Lady Libertarian <Lady_Libertarian@FreeWorld.xxx> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Libertarianism is the only political philosophy with an
>> objective defining principle ( the non-initiation of force
>> principle ), that doesn't drift all over the place with the
>> whims of the masses.
> 
> 
> What exactly does "the non-initiation of force principle"
> mean? No cops? 

So simple yet so hard for coercive collectivists to understand.

"Who is a libertarian?
A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, 
under any circumstances, to ***initiate*** force against another 
human being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who 
act consistently with this principle are libertarians, whether 
they realize it or not. Those who fail to act consistently with 
it are not libertarians, regardless of what they may claim." -- 
L. Neil Smith 


It sounds simple yet the implications are profound.

It would mean you'd have to implement voluntary government: Only 
the amount of government that the people would willingly support, 
and that wasn't allowed to initiate force.  Before you scoff at 
the idea and start saying that no one would support it, think 
about it some. Everything the government currently does, which 
people wouldn't support it doing, all the waste and pork would be 
gone, leaving maybe 5% of the budget the government has now, 
which would only be used for the essentials that people would 
willingly support. Therefore they'd likely have more funding for 
the things the people really wanted, without all the waste and 
oppression of human rights that the government does now.

> Can the democratic republic system of gov't we enjoy exist
> without the "whim" of the electorate?

That's the whole problem. Once people find out they can form a 
mob and enslave others to pay for every frivolous whim they can 
think of, it grows into the kind of out-of-control-monster we 
have now, until it eventually collapses.

Go look up how much debt this country has now.

And all the government has to do is keep running those printing 
presses and printing money.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It 
can exist only until the voters discover that they can vote 
themselves largesse ( gifts ) from the public treasury. From that 
moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising 
the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that 
a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always 
followed by a dictatorship. - Alexander Fraser Tytler (later Lord 
Alexander Fraser Woodhouslee), in "The Decline and Fall of the 
Athenian Republic," published 1776.

A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, 
which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. -- G. GORDON 
LIDDY

More like: A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his 
fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your 
enslavement.

"We have allowed our constitutional republic to deteriorate into 
a virtually unchecked direct democracy. Today's political process 
is nothing more than a street fight between various groups 
seeking to vote themselves other people's money.  Individual 
voters tend to support the candidate that promises them the most 
federal loot in whatever form, rather than the candidate who will 
uphold the rule of law." --Rep. Ron Paul

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty one 
percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty 
nine. -- Thomas Jefferson" 


> What shall we replace it
> with? 

I just told you.

-- 
Lady Libertarian - United States of America