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Re: Deranged, Disconnected, and Dangerous

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From: Chas
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:52
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"Lady Libertarian" <Lady_Libertarian@FreeWorld.xxx> wrote
> Uh, explain what you mean, and in what circumstances you think
> people have the right to initiate force against others. Be
> careful with the word "initiate" though. Defensive or retaliatory
> force isn't "initiating" so see if you can explain yourself
> making accurate use of the word.

Why don't you go ahead and define the word to your satisfaction- so far 
you've only defined what it might not be.
And define 'force' while you're at it- what constitutes 'force' and how, for 
instance, does it differ from 'violence'?

>> And he has no standing from which to define 'libertarians' in
>> any case- I know him a little, and I'll guarantee that he
>> can't make it stick either.
> Make what stick?

His definition as being at all authoritative in any manner.
And his affectations of carrying are laughable- he's a better storyteller 
than toughguy.

> Whatever you mean by all that. When we discuss things, I often
> feel like you're on a totally different channel on the TV, from
> what I'm on.

Mel; I know you for several years now- in a number of personas.
It's more than just different channels- your perspective is, at the very 
least, uncommon.

> You grok the word "allowed"? A libertarian government would have
> to be prohibited from initiating force.

Prohibited by whom and under what sanction?
To 'allow' presupposes some standing of authority- just wondered what that 
might be.

> Excuse me if I haven't the foggiest idea what you just said.

Which word confuses you?
Perhaps if you pointed at each word and spoke them aloud-
have Nanny help you with the hard ones.

Chas 
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