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In article <f7e7mb$h3s$3@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
 Joeseph P. Blow <jpblow@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:36:06 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <f7dgid$l2g$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
> > Joeseph P. Blow <jpblow@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:40:25 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >In article <f7dcsl$b12$5@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
> >> > Joeseph P. Blow <jpblow@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:59:22 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> >In article <4699a285$0$20582$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> >> >> > Slim <slim@pickins.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On 2007-07-14 22:06:33 -0400, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom> 
> >> >> >> said:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > In article <46997cfd$0$4716$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> >> >> >> >  Slim <slim@pickins.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> On 2007-07-14 18:41:08 -0400, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom> 
> >> >> >> >> said:
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >>> In article <f7bbcj$25e$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
> >> >> >> >>> Joeseph P. Blow <jpblow@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >> >>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:05:24 GMT, Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> 
> >> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:45:16 -0400, Joeseph P. Blow 
> >> >> >> >>>>> <jpblow@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:00:03 GMT, Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:30:19 -0400, Joeseph P. Blow 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> <jpblow@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:48:32 GMT, Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Folks,
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> aka fellow neocon dupes who haven't yet admitted it to 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> themselves 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> that
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> they were wrong
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> this is typical liberal-think. This poor ignorant buffoon
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> actually thinks we are still trying to "take" Iraq and 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Afghanistan. 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> We
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> already did that.. in about 3 weeks.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> No, we didn't.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> The Taliban and Saddam were defeated in record time.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> The taliban wasn't IN iraq until after saddam was ousted, 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> dipshit.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> See what I mean, folks. Dumber than dirt...
> >> >> >> >>>>>> Yes, you are.  You're the one that made the claim.   Backing 
> >> >> >> >>>>>> down 
> >> >> >> >>>>>> now?
> >> >> >> >>>>>> The taliban haven't been defeated. Bin Ladin hasn't been 
> >> >> >> >>>>>> caught. 
> >> >> >> >>>>>>  
> >> >> >> >>>>>> US
> >> >> >> >>>>>> Servicemen and Iraqi citizens are dying.  You are a fool.
> >> >> >> >>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>> Heh heh heh ..
> >> >> >> >>>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>>> You're the moron that "forgot" the Taliban were in Afghanistan
> >> >> >> >>>> 
> >> >> >> >>>> Still are.  Still haven't been defeated.  Nice try, neocon 
> >> >> >> >>>> dupe.  
> >> >> >> >>>> You
> >> >> >> >>>> lose again.
> >> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >> >>> They never will be defeated. Islam is simply a superior culture, 
> >> >> >> >>> and 
> >> >> >> >>> there is nothing you or I can do to stand in their way.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> BULLSHIT.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Organized Religion is the Opiate of the masses.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Citation of marxist principles does wonders for your argument(s).
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> It certainly does, when its the truth.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> More people have killed/be killed beacuse of religion than any other 
> >> >> >> reason.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >That's simplistic rhetoric.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Yet it's as true today as it was at any other time in history.
> >> >
> >> >Sorry, no. Communism alone killed more people in the 20th century than 
> >> >all religiously-motivated efforts combined.
> >> 
> >> Most killed were because of their religion.
> >
> >Incorrect. Most were killed because they were dangers to the state, or 
> >perished through the dysfunctional nature of communist governance.
> 
> They considered religous leaders a danger to the state.  
> 
> 
> >
> >> >> And now it's christians killing muslims.
> >> >
> >> >You are simply parroting jihadi propaganda.
> >> 
> >> Are you actually DENYING that the US is killing muslims?
> >
> >No, but as surprising as it may be, there are Muslims who believe and 
> >act differently than the ones we are targeting. They are not all the 
> >same.
> 
> Well at least you're not among the brainwashed neocon dupes who
> believe that they are.  Good for you. 

While you refer dismissively to people you consider unschooled in the 
nuance of Islam, it's not apparent your own knowledge goes deeper than 
simply repeating Islamist talking points.

> >> >It is in fact Muslims who kill the most Muslims. Non-Muslim nations such 
> >> >as the US have expended the most to protect Muslims from other Muslims.
> >> 
> >> Oh, bullshit.  Fucking neocon dupe.
> >
> >Actually, it is true. Profane declarations are a poor substitute for 
> >research.
> 
> Had the US not invaded Iraq, far fewer Muslims and Americans would be
> dead right now.  It's our fault.

That seems to be the general feeling in mid-eastern Islam, but then 
again, it's always someone else's fault.

Given the majority illiterate constituency, and the strict and often 
primitive nature of the faith, it's not surprising they would be so 
fervent.

But it is odd to see word-for-word recitations of primitive, 
manipulative propaganda by supposedly enlightened and educated 
westerners.