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In article <f7ed46$rs8$13@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
 Joeseph P. Blow <jpblow@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> >> >> And now it's christians killing muslims.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You are simply parroting jihadi propaganda.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Are you actually DENYING that the US is killing muslims?
> >> >
> >> >No, but as surprising as it may be, there are Muslims who believe and 
> >> >act differently than the ones we are targeting. They are not all the 
> >> >same.
> >> 
> >> Well at least you're not among the brainwashed neocon dupes who
> >> believe that they are.  Good for you. 
> >
> >While you refer dismissively to people you consider unschooled in the 
> >nuance of Islam,
> 
> Like you?  Heh.  I fully admit I don't know everything there is to
> know.  Unlike neocons who claim they know all.

Well, of course, but in the grand scheme of things, what do you consider 
the greatest present threat to the liberal west? And what would you 
propose we do about it?
  
> >> Had the US not invaded Iraq, far fewer Muslims and Americans would be
> >> dead right now.  It's our fault.
> >
> >That seems to be the general feeling in mid-eastern Islam, but then 
> >again, it's always someone else's fault.
> 
> How can you deny it?  Were we not there, thousands of US soldiers
> would still be alive.

I can't deny what you offer as argument. In a war, people die. People 
take sides, and if one side doesn't show up for a war, then there is no 
war, but there is a victory.

> Hundreds of thousands in Iraq would still be
> alive.   Had we not such blind support for Israel, I contend even more
> deaths could have been prevented.

Had we submitted to radical islam in 1780, many deaths could have been 
avoided, not to mention the atomic attacks on the Japanese.
 
> Don't like what I have to say?  Too bad, neocon dupe.  It's the truth.
> You don't like the truth, I know.  That's just too bad.

An eerily similar argument is presented by radical elements of any given 
ideology, but of course you are here to argue against such an argument 
are you not?