🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <f7egup$acg$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
 Joeseph P. Blow <jpblow@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:12:39 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <f7ed46$rs8$13@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
> > Joeseph P. Blow <jpblow@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> >> And now it's christians killing muslims.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You are simply parroting jihadi propaganda.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Are you actually DENYING that the US is killing muslims?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >No, but as surprising as it may be, there are Muslims who believe and 
> >> >> >act differently than the ones we are targeting. They are not all the 
> >> >> >same.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Well at least you're not among the brainwashed neocon dupes who
> >> >> believe that they are.  Good for you. 
> >> >
> >> >While you refer dismissively to people you consider unschooled in the 
> >> >nuance of Islam,
> >> 
> >> Like you?  Heh.  I fully admit I don't know everything there is to
> >> know.  Unlike neocons who claim they know all.
> >
> >Well, of course, but in the grand scheme of things, what do you consider 
> >the greatest present threat to the liberal west? And what would you 
> >propose we do about it?
> 
> The greatest threat is the US's current policy of trying to make other
> countries more like US.  Most of the problem will be gone when bush
> is.

But so many countries become like the US by choice, even in the Muslim 
mid-east. It seems you are are more sympathetic to those who resist 
modernity than to your own tribe of progressive liberals.
  
> >> >> Had the US not invaded Iraq, far fewer Muslims and Americans would be
> >> >> dead right now.  It's our fault.
> >> >
> >> >That seems to be the general feeling in mid-eastern Islam, but then 
> >> >again, it's always someone else's fault.
> >> 
> >> How can you deny it?  Were we not there, thousands of US soldiers
> >> would still be alive.
> >
> >I can't deny what you offer as argument. In a war, people die.
> 
> There shouldn't have been a war. 

Too late for that suggestion, Saddam is dead.

> 
> >People  take sides, and if one side doesn't show up for a war, then there is 
> >no 
> >war, but there is a victory.
> 
> There'll never be a victory in Iraq.

Correct.

Extrapolation suggests here will be no victory in any war with Islam, 
and by extension, with any radical entity.

You win.