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"bushlyed" <bushlyed@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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On Nov 26, 12:09 am, "Chris" <vscooternos...@att.net> wrote:

 *As long as people like that are free, we are all in imminent
danger....


He is certainly not free are that is an asinine argument; he is in
prison

*And if he is put to death for his crimes he never has a chance to get out 
and do it again. And I didsay he was free, I said as long as people like him 
are free we are all in imminenet danger...



>
> You obviously don't understand the definitioin of imminent
>
> *Sure I do....and I think anytime someone like this is out on the street
> there is an imminent danger of him killing someone. Just because he can't
> always do it doesn't mean he isn't trying to....
>

Definition:  likely to occur at any moment; impending: Her death is
imminent.

*Which it always is when scum like this are alive....


And again, life imprisonment is slightly different than being out in
the street but I guess you are not bright enough to understand that

*No I guess you are really understanding what I am saying but resorting to 
namcalling is certainly bolstering you argument.....keep it up.

>
> *I personally don't think of it as an advance myself. Getting rid of the
> scum of the earth is not a bad thing.


And what if I decided you were the scum of the earth which I am
quickly drawing to that conclusion

*You are entitled to your opinion.....if I come to your house and kill your 
kids or wife then your conclusion would be justified and I would be 
deserving fo the death penalty. ( that is not a threat, just an example so 
calm down)


Hitler decided that the Jews were the scum of the earth

*Yes but the Jews weren't raping and murdering people so it was obvious he 
was wrong.


The KKK and southern bigots decided that blacks were the scum of the
earth

*And if you look at their members you will see that they are obviously wrong 
in so many different ways.....but neither of your arguments have anything to 
do with a convicted rapist and murderer....who is by the way the scum of the 
earth....you seem to be the only one saying otherwise.


>Do you think if we ever catch OBL we
> should just sentence him to life in prison?

Which would be a whole hell of a lot humiliating for him and his cause
than just killing him; killing him would make him a martyr

*And putting him in prison would make him a prize to be sought by any number 
of hijackers or kidnappers who might just take over a preschool or something 
to try and trade his release for the hostages. I don't care about 
humiliating him for years in prison....I want his ass out of the game for 
good.


Don't get me wrong, if we could take him out with a missle strike, I
am all in favor but I just would love to subject him to the type of
humilation that a 6'5" muslim extemist would have to endure among
black and hispanic gangs in prison

* it wouldn't be worth the risk of making him a prize for the millions of 
religeous zealots out there.



>
> * I doubt very much that that is the reason.....I still believe the 
> greatest
> reason for our crime problem is our backward ass drug policy.
>

I hate our drug policy too.  But this guy did not kill because of our
drug policy

* I was speaking in general terms of our crime rate. This guy killed because 
he is not wired correctly from the manufacturer....



> Right and what happens when you do it fast and get it wrong and
> execute an innocent person
>
> *Like I said, we can do it faster and without a loss of justice.

The two are mutually exclusive

* Not at all....just because you believe so doesn't make it so.


> With the
> technology available today the chances of a wrongful conviction have 
> dropped
> dramatically.

Check out the innocence project please

*I have.....you do see how old most of those cases are don't you....how many 
wrongful convictions have they taken on that happened in the last five 
years?


> And most of the appeals are not because they aren't guilty,
> they are because some lawyer says they weren't convicted the right way or 
> on
> of the endless conflicting details of todays laws wasn't followed properly
> so the scumbag deserves a new trial...please.....
>

Right way of conviction.  Like beating a confession out of a person,
or fabricating evidence

*No, like not having every "I" crossed and "T" dotted....


> How do you correct that, how do you make that up
>
> *As you well know, it can't be made up.....but I would rather kill a
> thousand bad ones and possibly a couple of good ones

What if your mother was one of the good ones; jezus, what horrible
reasoning


* Not at all.....and my mother has already been arrested.....search the 
General Patreus hearings and Code Pink on Google.....or look in the archives 
of the Daily Show....her probation is finally up though so she can go back 
to D.C. for the innauguration.  :)


>, then let the thousand
> bad ones live just in case one of them might be innocent. And before you
> ask, if I was the innocent one then yes I would rather die then let the
> thousand bad ones go free. At least it would be a noble death.
>

Really.  I will gladly buy your ticket to the death row of your choice

*If you can guarantee me that the thousand guilty bastards get iced as well 
then we will talk.


That is an extemely idiotic statement

* Maybe to you.....but I happen to think some things are worth dieing 
for....just as some things are worth killing for.


>
> Next life? Give me a break
>
> *Who knows if there is a next one or not.....maybe there electrical energy
> signature will just mix back into the universe and the next time it 
> becomes
> human life it will be better.......use the force Luke.....
>

What are you smoking.  I really would like to get some of that

*Actually I quit smoking 3 weeks ago.....I bought myself a new Harley for my 
birthday so I quit smoking to pay for it.....


>
> *Again, I disagree.....some people just deserve killing.....and that makes
> life better for the rest of us

Yeah, and who gets to decide who deserves killing and what qualifies
them for that

*Well as a simple rule of thumb, start with the rapists and murderers and 
child molesters and then we can add to the list as necessary.....and a jury 
of their peers makes the decision, not me. I just want to ensure they have 
the option.