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In article 
<wildbilly-4CE32A.16535009032008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
 Billy <wildbilly@getthe.net> wrote:

> In article 
> <albert.finney000-3FFB91.13310409032008@news-server.tx.rr.com>,
>  Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom> wrote:
> 
> > In article 
> > <wildbilly-0ACC13.10013609032008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
> >  Billy <wildbilly@getthe.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article 
> > > <albert.finney000-2BE61A.09351009032008@news-server.tx.rr.com>,
> > >  Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In article 
> > > > <wildbilly-8393AF.23073208032008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
> > > >  Billy <wildbilly@getthe.net> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > In article 
> > > > > <albert.finney000-2036B1.08253908032008@news-server.tx.rr.com>,
> > > > >  Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > In article 
> > > > > > <wildbilly-CF15F3.18430207032008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
> > > > > > ,
> > > > > >  Billy <wildbilly@getthe.net> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In article 
> > > > > > > <albert.finney000-965814.07494303032008@news-server.tx.rr.com>,
> > > > > > >  Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > In article 
> > > > > > > > <wildbilly-623104.22340602032008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net
> > > > > > > > .a
> > > > > > > > u>
> > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > >  Billy <wildbilly@getthe.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > In article 
> > > > > > > > > <albert.finney000-26C38A.07290902032008@news-server.tx.rr.com>
> > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > >  Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > We'll not revisit the record numbers of democrats connected 
> > > > > > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > Clintons who fell under the purview of jursiprudence, but 
> > > > > > > > > > we 
> > > > > > > > > > will 
> > > > > > > > > > note 
> > > > > > > > > > that the democrat party represents voter groups which 
> > > > > > > > > > traditionally 
> > > > > > > > > > have 
> > > > > > > > > > higher per-capita criminal convictions than those 
> > > > > > > > > > traditionally 
> > > > > > > > > > associated with repub's. I'm sure you catch my drift.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Why not? Go for it. As lame as Clinton  was, he looks like a 
> > > > > > > > > white 
> > > > > > > > > knight next to this gang of liars and thieves.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You're missing my point. I'm referring to voters.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > As to your opinion, it's just that - and by any legal standard 
> > > > > > > > this 
> > > > > > > > administration is squeaky clean 
> > > > > > > What kind of drugs you on boy, I gotta get me some of them. Or 
> > > > > > > did 
> > > > > > > you 
> > > > > > > just go for the full head-on lobotomy?  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > They brought back the Iran-Contra gang. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Elliott Abrams pleaded guilty to withholding information from 
> > > > > > > Congress, 
> > > > > > > then was pardoned bythe first President Bush.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Poindexter was convicted in 1990 on five felony charges
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I was unaware GW Bush was in power in 1990.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Otto Reich, the State Department's top official for Latin America
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Executive privilege and national security concerns keep us from 
> > > > > > > finding 
> > > > > > > out what this government is doing form the secret attendees of 
> > > > > > > Cheney's 
> > > > > > > "Energy Summit" which was followed by de-facto deregulation which 
> > > > > > > lead 
> > > > > > > to the "Clean Air Amendment", "Clean Water Amendment" (of course 
> > > > > > > neither 
> > > > > > > was clean), and the screwing of Californian electrical rate 
> > > > > > > payers.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All charged and jailed on your opinion alone.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Then there was the bald face lying that got us into Iraq.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Niger yellow cake uranium?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The British intel, or Joe Wilson's report of seeing a top Iraqi 
> > > > > > official 
> > > > > > in Niger? Granted, Wilson is a proved liar, but he's on your side, 
> > > > > > right?
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Let's not forget the stripping of the Constitution and the loss 
> > > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > 800 year old right of habeas corpus and the right to a jury of 
> > > > > > > your 
> > > > > > > peers, illegal invasion of everyones privacy (foreign and 
> > > > > > > domestic).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Are you thinking of the "drug war", or do you call Iran frequently?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Oh and the killing of "SUSPECTED" terrorists and the torturing of 
> > > > > > > "SUSPECTED" terrorists and the very real kidnapping of a Canadian 
> > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > German who were tortured.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Oh my.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > At present the US is supplying weapons to both Sunni and Shia 
> > > > > > > forces 
> > > > > > > in 
> > > > > > > Iraq, which keeps the violence going and justifies our continued 
> > > > > > > presence and the spending of big bucks, so that Daddy Bush and 
> > > > > > > friends 
> > > > > > > can continue to make big bucks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Decreasing violence = increased violence.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > And the thing that really is the symbol for this administration 
> > > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > thieves, liars, and murders is when we invaded Baghdad, the only 
> > > > > > > part 
> > > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > the infrastructure that was guarded was the Ministry of Oil.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > How odd, that we would protect an element of Iraq's Number one 
> > > > > > source 
> > > > > > of 
> > > > > > income.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Squeaky clean? You're nuts boy.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, boy, by legal measure - indictment, conviction, 
> > > > > > incarceration, 
> > > > > > you 
> > > > > > seem to have failed to make the case.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sadly, your outrage is not prosecutable.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > compared to previous admins. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If we had a system which relied on 
> > > > > > >    public opinion,  
> > > > > > > > many critics of this administration would be in the slammer as 
> > > > > > > > well.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You do know that Bush is a very unpopular person don't you?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 4 out of 5 Islamists, communists and neo-marxist wankers hate the 
> > > > > > guy. 
> > > > > > You're in good company.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You must 
> > > > > > > know that. Lunatic Republicans (ask for them by name) are his 
> > > > > > > only 
> > > > > > > supporters. If it was up to popular opinion, this administration 
> > > > > > > would  
> > > > > > > be in prison or the Hague.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So that's it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You set out to straighten me out about this, and end up making my 
> > > > > > case 
> > > > > > for me, you weren't even smart enough to mention Libby.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Care to try again?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > List the indictments and convictions of the people in and 
> > > > > > surrounding 
> > > > > > the administration, then compare that list with previous 
> > > > > > administrations, and you will arrive at the same conclusion I just 
> > > > > > offered.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is really 9th-grade stuff, youngster, are you still in 8th?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (BTW, you, like the other outraged ninny, failed to get the gist, 
> > > > > > so 
> > > > > > I'll repeat it once again. The democrat voter base is comprised in 
> > > > > > no 
> > > > > > small part by criminals)
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have to hand it to you. You certainly are an arrogant idiot. Proud 
> > > > > of 
> > > > > your own ignorance.
> > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR2008
> > > > > 02
> > > > > 1
> > > > > 502901.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR
> > > > > 
> > > > > washingtonpost.com  > Opinions  > Outlook
> > > > > The Dumbing Of America
> > > > 
> > > > Classic.
> > > > 
> > > > I was expecting maybe a long list of indictments and convictions to 
> > > > compare to previous administrations. But I guess that wouldn't support 
> > > > your argument.
> > > > 
> > > > Instead you post a lengthy unrelated article in an attempt to call me 
> > > > stupid.
> > > > 
> > > > The irony must escape you.
> > > > 
> > > > However, it was a good article, in that it answers the question "why do 
> > > > so many people vote democrat?"
> > > > 
> > > > Later, kid.
> > > 
> > > You didn't understand either post, did you? It's hard to say whether you 
> > > need a history class of an English class. Your egregiously depauperate 
> > > education leaves you at a disadvantage in a debate. So why don't you 
> > > scurry around, and cut and paste a coherent argument together, with 
> > > citations, as I did. 
> > > 
> > > I've documented that this administration brought back the supporters of 
> > > Ollie North's shadow government. 
> > > http://www.blythe.org/nytransfer-subs/Central_America/Iran-Contra_Felons_
> > > Get_Good_Jobs_from_Bush
> > > 
> > > The ones who shielded the Contra cocaine running into south central L.A. 
> > > (Dark Alliance by Gary Webb)
> > > 
> > > The secret meeting in the White House that are cloaked in Presidential 
> > > prerogatives or national secrecy. 
> > > 
> > > The lies that led to Bush's unending war on terror, that coincidentally 
> > > enriches Poppy Bush and friends.
> > > 
> > > And if you can't see a straight line from Niger yellow cake uranium to 
> > > Scouter Libby, then you must be maliciously blind.
> > > 
> > > How old are you kid? I'm 65. I went to school with Sputnik, back when 
> > > government was putting money into schools, not taking it out. Just means 
> > > that you'll have to work a little harder.
> > 
> > We're evidently using different standards of measure for "corruption" 
> > when comparing administrations, mine being actual legal action and 
> > conclusions, yours being accusations and theories.
> > 
> > When those accusations and theories turn to indictments, trials and 
> > punishments, you get back to me with the comparative body count among 
> > this administration and past administrations.
> > 
> > You'd better hope for a last-minute rush, or you'll have to describe the 
> > administration as "the most corrupt, but with the least number of legal 
> > prosecutions."
> Then you wouldn't mind posting the actual legal actions and 
> conclusions for our edification.

Surprisingly hard to find.


> As far as legal action, the Republican has done a fairly good job of 
> blocking any substantive investigations of the for Bush administration 
> as opposed to their fish expedition against Clinton. It was only when 
> the public realized what a bunch of two-faced scum bags they are that 
> things started to change. In any event, tell us of the criminal Clinton 
> administration so that we have a basis for comparison.

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