🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <rje2h3dikjua2nl80jgni1s25dm00mm3b9@4ax.com>,
 Ron Johnson <bugman_Kill_All_Spammers@airmail.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:31:44 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <cd52h35o17mkt0cp2oad40s5duha0dckvs@4ax.com>,
> > Ron Johnson <bugman_Kill_All_Spammers@airmail.net> wrote:
> >
> >> And yet the Neo Cons don't get it when we lovers of freedom protest
> >> similar problems with our centralized government here....
> >
> >Could you give us an idea of soviet-style centralized government you are 
> >referring to?
> >
> >
> You still don't get it.  We move closer to that with each, "Executive
> Privilege".
> 
> However, and I know it does no good to argue with you, torture, denial
> of habeas corpus, secret prisons, warrant less wire tapping, no knock,
> law enforcement are all examples of things that should not be
> happening in the USA, no matter which Party is in charge.

Things tend to change to meet the changing nature of threats, and any 
policy giving greater power to government should be highly suspect.

That said, I find people tend to lump policies created for the Islamo 
threat with policies that have been in existence for some time under the 
Bush" umbrella. It seems all-or-nothing, and "no-knock raids" become 
"secret prisons", which is not a good way to argue for or against either.