🚀 go-pugleaf

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:58:38 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
wrote:

>In article <rje2h3dikjua2nl80jgni1s25dm00mm3b9@4ax.com>,
> Ron Johnson <bugman_Kill_All_Spammers@airmail.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:31:44 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <cd52h35o17mkt0cp2oad40s5duha0dckvs@4ax.com>,
>> > Ron Johnson <bugman_Kill_All_Spammers@airmail.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> And yet the Neo Cons don't get it when we lovers of freedom protest
>> >> similar problems with our centralized government here....
>> >
>> >Could you give us an idea of soviet-style centralized government you are 
>> >referring to?
>> >
>> >
>> You still don't get it.  We move closer to that with each, "Executive
>> Privilege".
>> 
>> However, and I know it does no good to argue with you, torture, denial
>> of habeas corpus, secret prisons, warrant less wire tapping, no knock,
>> law enforcement are all examples of things that should not be
>> happening in the USA, no matter which Party is in charge.
>
>Things tend to change to meet the changing nature of threats, and any 
>policy giving greater power to government should be highly suspect.
>
>That said, I find people tend to lump policies created for the Islamo 
>threat with policies that have been in existence for some time under the 
>Bush" umbrella. It seems all-or-nothing, and "no-knock raids" become 
>"secret prisons", which is not a good way to argue for or against either.

Please tell us more about no knock raids becoming secret prisons, I
haven't heard of that one.