🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <1f43h3pu4kvjlut95t535fermm7796rj5t@4ax.com>,
 Ron Johnson <bugman_Kill_All_Spammers@airmail.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:58:38 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <rje2h3dikjua2nl80jgni1s25dm00mm3b9@4ax.com>,
> > Ron Johnson <bugman_Kill_All_Spammers@airmail.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:31:44 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >In article <cd52h35o17mkt0cp2oad40s5duha0dckvs@4ax.com>,
> >> > Ron Johnson <bugman_Kill_All_Spammers@airmail.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> And yet the Neo Cons don't get it when we lovers of freedom protest
> >> >> similar problems with our centralized government here....
> >> >
> >> >Could you give us an idea of soviet-style centralized government you are 
> >> >referring to?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> You still don't get it.  We move closer to that with each, "Executive
> >> Privilege".
> >> 
> >> However, and I know it does no good to argue with you, torture, denial
> >> of habeas corpus, secret prisons, warrant less wire tapping, no knock,
> >> law enforcement are all examples of things that should not be
> >> happening in the USA, no matter which Party is in charge.
> >
> >Things tend to change to meet the changing nature of threats, and any 
> >policy giving greater power to government should be highly suspect.
> >
> >That said, I find people tend to lump policies created for the Islamo 
> >threat with policies that have been in existence for some time under the 
> >Bush" umbrella. It seems all-or-nothing, and "no-knock raids" become 
> >"secret prisons", which is not a good way to argue for or against either.
> 
> Please tell us more about no knock raids becoming secret prisons, I
> haven't heard of that one.

It's a new phenomenon, in which long-existing policies suddenly become 
new again.