🚀 go-pugleaf

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:26:41 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
wrote:

>In article <1f43h3pu4kvjlut95t535fermm7796rj5t@4ax.com>,
> Ron Johnson <bugman_Kill_All_Spammers@airmail.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:58:38 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <rje2h3dikjua2nl80jgni1s25dm00mm3b9@4ax.com>,
>> > Ron Johnson <bugman_Kill_All_Spammers@airmail.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:31:44 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >In article <cd52h35o17mkt0cp2oad40s5duha0dckvs@4ax.com>,
>> >> > Ron Johnson <bugman_Kill_All_Spammers@airmail.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> And yet the Neo Cons don't get it when we lovers of freedom protest
>> >> >> similar problems with our centralized government here....
>> >> >
>> >> >Could you give us an idea of soviet-style centralized government you are 
>> >> >referring to?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> You still don't get it.  We move closer to that with each, "Executive
>> >> Privilege".
>> >> 
>> >> However, and I know it does no good to argue with you, torture, denial
>> >> of habeas corpus, secret prisons, warrant less wire tapping, no knock,
>> >> law enforcement are all examples of things that should not be
>> >> happening in the USA, no matter which Party is in charge.
>> >
>> >Things tend to change to meet the changing nature of threats, and any 
>> >policy giving greater power to government should be highly suspect.
>> >
>> >That said, I find people tend to lump policies created for the Islamo 
>> >threat with policies that have been in existence for some time under the 
>> >Bush" umbrella. It seems all-or-nothing, and "no-knock raids" become 
>> >"secret prisons", which is not a good way to argue for or against either.
>> 
>> Please tell us more about no knock raids becoming secret prisons, I
>> haven't heard of that one.
>
>It's a new phenomenon, in which long-existing policies suddenly become 
>new again.

Oh.