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In article <c71rd35c1fnkp0c9gf5fokevdk3k0fvs07@4ax.com>,
 felton <felton@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:22:22 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <snsqd3lf5ahsggb5809r44u93tg34ruuuc@4ax.com>,
> > felton <felton@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:59:06 -0500, Al <albert.finney000@geemail.coom>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >In article <hugpd35lio3f4s4de3c3qp384v7h7nogsd@4ax.com>,
> >> > felton <felton@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:30:30 -0500, "Chris" <vscooternospam@copper.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> >http://www.politicalcompass.org/
> >> >> >
> >> >> >No cheating Steve..... 
> >> >> >
> >> >> -3.62, -3.64
> >> >> 
> >> >> I seem to be in the Gandhi, Nelson Madela neighborhood.  Pretty good
> >> >> company, I would say:)
> >> >
> >> >An unwashed pacifist who reccomended the jews commit mass suicide and a 
> >> >failed "statesman" and racialist who praised communism and dictatorships 
> >> >while his country became the most dangerous place on the planet.
> >> >
> >> >Yikes.
> >> >
> >> >I guess it's all in the perspective.
> >> 
> >> It would seem so.  Both of them are considered great men
> >
> >By some - primarily ardent leftists.
> >
> >
> >> thoughout the
> >> world
> >
> >The world of leftism.
> >
> >> and you are still cheerleading for GWB.  I guess it is all in
> >> the perspective.
> >
> >You can simply leave GWB out of this, your endorsement of leftist 
> >heroes. Leftist heroes also include, in no particular order, Fidel, 
> >Hugo, Saddam, Lenin, Marx....
> 
> Only Steve could find a way to link Nelson Mandela and Gandhi to
> Saddam.  Deep thinking at work.  I am sure he was in the lower left
> hand quadrant of that graph.

Your reaction is amusing.

That your apparent heroes are/were in fact quite antithetical to western 
liberal society and supportive by whatever means of systems hostile to 
liberal western democracy seems to have escaped your notice.

IOW, your standards of respect rely on a very limited knowledge based on 
popularized, airbrushed and sterilized history, yet you accuse me of not 
being a "deep thinker" because I apparently know *more* about these 
"heroes" than you do.

And the classic variation of "lots of people feel this way". Yup, now 
*that* is the indication of a deep thinker.

What you admire is the airbrushed mythical hero presented by leftist 
institutions such as public education and media - not the reality of 
philosophies and positions of these men.

Unless, of course, you *agree* with Ghandi's counsel to the jews, and 
you *admire* communist dictators and thugs, and *support* the violence 
and corruption of South Africa in the Mandela era.

Then your admiration would make perfect sense, but I suspect your 
admiration comes from ignorance rather than "deep thinking".

> >Great company you keep, Felton, old boy.
> 
> Your straw man production is working overtime, it seems.  I don't
> recall seeing your results.   Is there a reason for that?:) 


I didn't take the silly test, I already know what I am and where I 
stand, and in this case concerning Mandela and Ghandi - the people *you* 
referenced which you now claim are *my* strawmen - my positon is based 
on *knowledge of the subject*, and in my experience, admirers of these 
two are either committed leftists or ignorant of facts (not mutually 
exclusive, I assure you).