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On Sep 5, 1:23 am, Jer <gd...@airmail.ten> wrote:
> Al wrote:
> > In article <fesrd3dp1ubg4d042kgu01i2c7riec8...@4ax.com>,
> >  Ron Johnson <bug...@KILLSPAMMERSairmail.net> wrote:
>
> >> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:19:14 -0500, Suburbanaristic
> >> <Mussel...@wohoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I've often wondered this myself...
>
> >>> **I've never been to Africa but I know that it's a more culturally and
> >>> politically diverse place than we in the West often give it credit for.
> >>> We say "African" as if it accurately, or at least adequately, captures
> >>> everything about that vast continent. I understand the complaint.
> >>> Liberals and conservative alike do it. We can talk about it at length if
> >>> you like. But...
>
> >>> Why on Earth do Hillary Clinton et al. think that Africa ‹ never mind
> >>> African "tribes" ‹ are a compelling philosophical and political role
> >>> model for the United States of America? Africa? Africa? At least when
> >>> they invoke Europe as a public policy North Star they have in mind a
> >>> first world economy and government. But Africa?
>
> >>> On what conceivable grounds is it warranted to say, "What would the
> >>> Africans do?" Even on the wishy-washy proverbial terrain Clinton is
> >>> usually dealing with ‹ "children," "villages," etc ‹ is there any
> >>> empirical basis for arguing that the African Way is superior to our own?
> >>> Maybe there are studies that show "Africans" are happier than Americans
> >>> ‹ when the former aren't dying of malnutrition or medieval health care,
> >>> or desperately trying to emigrate to the West, no doubt. But even if
> >>> such studies exist, I doubt that any of the Africaphiles have that sort
> >>> of thing in mind when they talk about the ancient Wisdom we should
> >>> borrow from over there.
>
> >>> Even more fascinating: why do so many people uncritically accept these
> >>> appeals to African wisdom?
>
> >>>http://tinyurl.com/27vnlq
> >> If you got out more, and learned some things about Africa, (More than
> >> you learned from watching, "Tarzan", you might understand.   I have
> >> friends from a number of African Countries, Nigerians, Sudanese,
> >> Kenyans, South Africans, and more.
>
> > Well, good for you, but actually we do know quite a bit about Africa in
> > the context that the writer is referencing, if we were to "get out
> > more", we perhaps may find that, indeed, we should be more like Africa,
> > but I kinda think that's not too likely.
>
> > After all, we are continually told that Africa "must be saved", but that
> > the rich history of Africa is a model somehow through their quaint
> > ancient customs.
>
> > It would make better sense for a presidential candidate to quote the
> > proverbs of the founders of this country rather than patronizing
> > specific identity groups with such pander.
>
> >> I realize that I have a head start on you, having trained people from
> >> some of those countries to be truck drivers, but others I know outside
> >> of being a trainer.
>
> > I am of of course at at acknowledged intellectual disadvantage in the
> > realm of cred when discussing geopoloitics, after all you are a truck
> > driver.
>
> Here's Rudd, proving he's the pompous slut I've always know him to be.
> Again.
>
>
>
> >> If we only associate ourselves with white rednecks, we are not likely
> >> to know much about the real world, or even our own country.
>
> > Then again, you grew up in Texas, right? I grew up in Puerto Rico,
> > Florida, California, London, NYC, and other places I forget, where it
> > was damn difficult to find this "white redneck" you speak of.
>
> We don't care where you were raised, all we want to know is why did the
> best part of you dribble down your mother's leg?
>
>
>
> > Given that, what is this "we" stuff?
>
> --
> jer
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Jer,

Cool, I'm not a ten either, more like a 3.5 (on a good day), but I'm
assuming your female?