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OM <OneWorldMedia@altermsn.com> wrote:
: Who cares if "Ebay" auctions are posted to dfw.forsale?

The potential for tremendous noise exists that way, IMO.

: Who would care to have the charter changed to allow such posts?

I probably wouldn't support such a change, but it's possible that
I could be convinced to change my mind.

: Should dfw.forsale really be called:
: dfw.forsale.no_Ebay_auctions_or_some_idiot_will_report_you_to_your_ISP_and_B
: ay_without_warning_just_to_upset_you?

Now you're getting silly.

: Who would like to start a newsgroup called dfw.auctions which would include
: both auctions and discussion of auctions by individuals in the DFW area?

Now you're making more sense.  I think this idea has merit.

cb

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:15:23 GMT, "OM" <OneWorldMedia@ALTERmsn.com>
wrote:

>Who cares if "Ebay" auctions are posted to dfw.forsale?

I do and so do many others or it wouldn't have been mentioned in the
group charter. It's a matter of principal and it's a matter of how
UseNet survives. Go do your homework, groups are organized for a
reason. Your personal immediate need is not a consideration. The group
charter is the consideration. Example: All dogs must have rabies
vaccinations, is your dog so special that he is immune from rabies? 

>
>Who would care to have the charter changed to allow such posts?

I would care. It would create more noise than valuable information and
I don't care to read about ebay auctions in a group already
established and forbidding such posts. Start a new group, don't try to
force the old group to meet your needs.
>
>Should dfw.forsale really be called:
>dfw.forsale.no_Ebay_auctions_or_some_idiot_will_report_you_to_your_ISP_and_B
>ay_without_warning_just_to_upset_you?
>

OK, when you get back from your vacation to adolescence, let everyone
know so that we can address this issue with you as adults. Sarcasm
creates only wasted bandwidth. You're dealing with thousands of adults
on UseNet. Start thinking in those terms if you want results.

>Who would like to start a newsgroup called dfw.auctions which would include
>both auctions and discussion of auctions by individuals in the DFW area?
>

I personally could care less if this group forms or not but you're
heading in the right direction now at least. There is every
possibility that such a group would be used and valuable in the
heirarchy. Those of us who didn't want to read it wouldn't have to
read it and it could perhaps control the stupid flame wars by those
who think they have a God given right to abuse any group they choose.
I'm absolutely sick and tired of seeing people personally flamed
because they understand and respect UseNet and attempt to help enforce
what makes UseNet possible in the beginning. 

Failing the creation of a group to you liking I invite you to go form
your own UseNet and use your own rules. You'll find very quickly that
a community without laws is a community doomed to fail. 

mama

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:15:23 GMT, "OM" <OneWorldMedia@ALTERmsn.com> wrote:

>Who cares if "Ebay" auctions are posted to dfw.forsale?
>
I do. Simply put, the dfw groups are set-up  like neighborhood, each for
discussion of specific dfw "things". You'll find similarly situated groups
for communities all over the world. The .forsale group can be likened to a
neighborhood garage sale where people are expected to behave in a civil
manner, and that is pretty much the spirit of the charter. Generally, when
one  goes to a garage sale, there is not an expectation to bid on items,
with delivery to be made at some future point. As a buyer, one generally
goes early to beat the crowd, find the best bargains, negotiate, and
hopefully walk away with the goods of their interest.  

People generally do not go to a garage sale expect to meet with a group of
people to be shown items so they can  obtain the seller's telephone number,
go back home and bid against each other, and then have the people from the
garage sale hire someone to bring the goods to them at some point in the
future. If they did, they would probably call it an auction. 

>Who would care to have the charter changed to allow such posts?
>
I would not care to have the charter changed to allow such posts.

>Should dfw.forsale really be called:
>dfw.forsale.no_Ebay_auctions_or_some_idiot_will_report_you_to_your_ISP_and_B
>ay_without_warning_just_to_upset_you?

As my 15 year old son says, DUDE! CHILL! (interpretation, your are being
inflammatory instead of objective, and it undercuts your point to act in
such a manner!)

>
>Who would like to start a newsgroup called dfw.auctions which would include
>both auctions and discussion of auctions by individuals in the DFW area?
>
I would not. Personally, I go to eBay most exclusively when I decide I
would rather bid against someone in the open,  have things shipped to me,
and have no issue with the extended time requirement necessary to complete
a transaction and receive the goods/merchandise.

Perhaps you would like to do so. There are provisions for getting this
done, all you need to do is follow them. Go to the News.* groups for
further information. From the perspective of your post, I would suggest
starting with the group News.NewUsers

This is all I have to say on this matter...

  



    Carey
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> Who cares if "Ebay" auctions are posted to dfw.forsale?
>
> Who would care to have the charter changed to allow such posts?
>
> Should dfw.forsale really be called:
>
dfw.forsale.no_Ebay_auctions_or_some_idiot_will_report_you_to_your_ISP_and_B
> ay_without_warning_just_to_upset_you?
>
> Who would like to start a newsgroup called dfw.auctions which would
include
> both auctions and discussion of auctions by individuals in the DFW area?
>
>
>