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Re: ISP spamming

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From: Bob Henry
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 00:00
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cptnerd@access.digex.net (Captain Nerd) Said this:

>In article <bote.835852657@access2>, bote@access2.digex.net (John Boteler) wrote:

>> dpawtows@access2.digex.net (Daniel Pawtowski) writes:
>> >   Anybody else been getting this one?  I've gotten nearly a dozen copies
>> 
>> > THIS AUTO EMAIL NOW UPDATES A DATABASE. YOU WILL NOT BE MAILED THIS AGAIN.
>> 
>> Apparently, it is a write-only database.  :(
>> 
>> [I'll probably now get yet more unsolicited garbage
>> in my mailbox.]
>> 
>> Up until now, I have been getting a broken record every
>> week or so from "Chancellor Group" which leads off
>> "I just got wind that Chancellor Group has reported
>> big quarterly earnings..."  What a surprise! They
>> just got wind of it for the 8th week!? These guys
>> are on the ball. I guess I'm not supposed to notice
>> that Chancellor Group itself is telling me that
>> it just "got wind" of its awe-inspiring earnings.

>   I haven't gotten anything from the Chancellor Group since I replied
>   with "unsubscribe" to both the spam address and their postmaster, saying
>   that if I got any more of these, I was going to inform the SEC.

>   It's only been a month since then, so I'm not sure I'm really off their
>   list.  Anyone have an address for the Securities and Exchange Commission?

I get that one too.  Wish I knew where they got our addresses.  (okay,
right here, I suppose)

The best solution to ANY unsolicited email is to send a reply with CC
(NOT BCC) to postmaster@their.domain.com  (if the spam is from
joe@aol.com, cc the reply to postmaster@aol.com)

Every domain has the postmaster email address. It's part of the
install of the mail server.  

This does two things.  It pisses off the busy postmaster, who is
probably also the webmaster, and the network administrator and God
knows what else.  He's going to talk to the originator of the spam,
GUARANTEED!!  He doesn't want to deal with filtering through his
"junk" mail, he wants to be able to get to his important email that
pertains to his duties. He's eventually going to lock the email box of
the offender, if it gets bad enough.

Second, the originator is going to see the cc: postmaster@his.isp.com
and might realize that people don't ALWAYS want his crap, and that he
is accountable to someone.  That seems to be forgotten on the
internet, everyone thinks they are invisible behind their computer
screens.

I have done this for the last 18 months and I've noticed that the
amount of junk e-mail has been declining in the last 8-10 months.  I
always get positive responses from the owners of the service being
used.  As long as I am polite in my request to not be harrassed with
junk mail, the service provider is usually very eager to help.  

It is helpful to mention that MOST isp's T.O.S. (terms of service)
strictly prohibit spamming, and that if they don't, they should
consider that policy, as it reflects poorly on the company to have
people abusing the internet through their service.


If everyone did that to ALL junk mail, it would get rid of it almost
entirely.  At least, there'd only be the first-timers.  They wouldn't
and couldn't do it a second time.  I guess it's like the junk mail in
our mailboxes, or the telephone solicitors.  There are enough
dimwitted and gullible people out there eating it all up, that justify
the practice.  They wouldn't keep doing it unless they get some
positive response.

that's my 2 cents..........

Bob Henry
bobhenry@cymedia.com
http://www.cymedia.com/dcmusic/
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From: bobhenry@idsonline.com (Bob Henry)
Subject: Re: ISP spamming
Date: 1996/07/03
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