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Article #201Re: RFC1226 - Internet Protocol Encapsulation of AX.25 Frames
From: Anders.Klemets
Date: Fri, 17 May 1991 04:42
Date: Fri, 17 May 1991 04:42
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> With regard to timing, the IP bridge could take quite a long time. There > is nothing that would prevent the establishment of an IP bridge over long > distances, even via satellite. AX.25 fixed length timers do not allow this. Possibly. But note that an IP bridge is never "established." The bridge would not use any connection oriented transport protocol, such as TCP. A 256 byte AX.25 frame takes about 2 seconds to transmit on a 1200 Baud channel, including TXDELAY. However, the time to transport such a frame over the Internet from, say, Sweden to eastern USA would only be about 100 ms. It used to be as bad as 500 ms, but that is still just a small multiple of the TXDELAY. So the total transmission time of the frame should be dominated by the time it takes to transmit it on the radio channels at both ends of the connection. So, adding one digipeater to the frame would get the transmission delay of TNCs just right. It would also make it fairly convenient for the user of the TNC to access the IP bridge. The user can have his packets 'digipeated' by the bridge just by typing the right callsign sequence at his TNC command prompt. Using no digipeaters (read: the NET/ROM model) the originating user would have to make an AX.25 connection to the bridge and send connect commands to its user interface. I think most users would find that to be more impractical. It could also make it complicated (or impossible) to have the bridge relay AX.25 UI frames. I can also imagine a third scheme where you don't need to connect to the bridge, and you don't need to use a digipeater to specify that you want to use the bridge. The bridge would just "know" which callsigns it should relay. Although this might sound neat, I think it could cause a lot of problems. One would get the timing problems on TNCs for instance. And particularily strange things would happen if two stations that communicate through the bridge suddenly start to hear each other directly. We all know how propagation conditions tend to vary... Anders
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 12f11c,a6c936a51a0f492a X-Google-Attributes: gid12f11c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-05-16 23:00:09 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!infoac!news-mail-gateway From: Anders.Klemets@cs.cmu.EDU Newsgroups: dnet.ham Subject: Re: RFC1226 - Internet Protocol Encapsulation of AX.25 Frames Message-ID: <kcAp95q00h7A0I_n8i@cs.cmu.edu> Date: 17 May 91 04:42:55 GMT References: <9105170137.AA01306@ray.com> Sender: daemon@infoac.rmi.de Organization: RMI Net INFO.box Systems * Aachen * Hamburg * Flensburg Lines: 42