🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: eduni.dcs.cs3
Article #17

Re: Cable Modems (was Re: Telewest Communications FIASCO)

#17
From: Andrew Pattison
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 00:00
66 lines
4047 bytes
phil henry wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:35:14 +0000, Stuart Carmichael
> <stuartc@europe.shiva.com> wrote:
> 
> >phil henry wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:24:41 GMT, Peter@adelheid.demon.co.uk (Peter G.
> >> Strangman) wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:43:23 GMT, phil.henry@telcore.demon.co.uk (phil
> >> >henry) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> An aside: xDSL technologies can put 2-8Mb/s down copper.
> >> >>
> >> >> However, cable modems won't be on the end of copper.
> >> >
> >> >Eh? What will they be on then?
> >>
> >> Not copper pairs. I believe they will use coax although fibre is
> >> possible.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ________________________________________________________
> >> phil henry ...
> >
> >The whole point of ADSL is that it does use the existing copper
> >pairs that the telcos have already installed.  This means that
> >to roll out ADSL they don't have to relay all the cables to your
> >home, just stick an ADSL modem on each end of the cable (one in
> >your home and one in the local exchange).  The other thing to note
> >is that it is Aysmetric, i.e ~6Meg down stream (depending on
> >cable quality/length) for all those lovely web pages and 640k
> >upstream for control information.
> >
> >if you want more info on this check out
> >http://www.adsl.com/adsl_tutorial.html
> 
> The main topic was cable operators and cable modems.
> 
> However, there seems to be little news of ADSL work
> in the UK. I believe a number of US telcos are trialling
> ADSL and US West (?) and SBC are rolling it out this year.
> As ever, 'telecomms words' are full of dreams, or
> marketing hype.
> 
> I believe ADSL is posing all kinds of problems for telcos
> related to cost, wrong kind of pairs already deployed,
> network management, business processes,
> network archtitecture,  accommodation etc.
> 
> --
> ________________________________________________________
> phil henry ...

I read somewhere that ADSL will also be virtually impossible in the UK
until BT allows people access to its cables to put the ADSL signal onto
the line (as I understand it ADSL stuff is added onto the line before
the POT exchange gets hold of it, and so the ADSL signal doesn't
penetrate the old LOT exchange.

-- 
Andrew J. Pattison
app@dcs.ed.ac.uk
WWW: www.ed.ac.uk/~app
Technical Details
Message-ID: <331B434C.6DD0@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mail
References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970218210422.12679B-100000@k9.tardis.ed.ac.uk> <dam-1902971353310001@kerrera.dcs.gla.ac.uk> <Pine.SOL.3.95.970219173112.9188A-100000@lanner.dai.ed.ac.uk> <Pine.SUN.3.95.970220121654.24605B-100000@tardis.tardis.ed.ac.uk> <E5wMyy.I7w.0.staffin.dcs.ed.ac.uk@dcs.ed.ac.uk> <330c6189.25450463@news.demon.co.uk> <330d9bcc.89825113@news.demon.co.uk> <330d51e5.3876892@news.demon.co.uk> <330D6C52.2D61@europe.shiva.com> <330d70e5.11813403@news.demon.co.uk>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: 11c7e4,90717bff8862bb1
X-Google-Attributes: gid11c7e4,public
X-Google-Thread: 11c291,90717bff8862bb1
X-Google-Attributes: gid11c291,public
X-Google-Thread: 1253eb,90717bff8862bb1
X-Google-Attributes: gid1253eb,public
X-Google-Thread: 151773,90717bff8862bb1
X-Google-Attributes: gid151773,public
X-Google-Thread: 1165b0,90717bff8862bb1
X-Google-Attributes: gid1165b0,public
X-Google-Thread: 128c5a,90717bff8862bb1
X-Google-Attributes: gid128c5a,public
X-Google-Thread: 15bea5,90717bff8862bb1
X-Google-Attributes: gid15bea5,public
X-Google-Thread: 10e553,90717bff8862bb1
X-Google-Attributes: gid10e553,public
From: Andrew Pattison <app@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Cable Modems (was Re: Telewest Communications FIASCO)
Date: 1997/03/03
Message-ID: <331B434C.6DD0@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
X-Deja-AN: 222967618
Sender: cnews@dcs.ed.ac.uk (UseNet News Admin)
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ramna.dcs.ed.ac.uk
References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970218210422.12679B-100000@k9.tardis.ed.ac.uk> <dam-1902971353310001@kerrera.dcs.gla.ac.uk> <Pine.SOL.3.95.970219173112.9188A-100000@lanner.dai.ed.ac.uk> <Pine.SUN.3.95.970220121654.24605B-100000@tardis.tardis.ed.ac.uk> <E5wMyy.I7w.0.staffin.dcs.ed.ac.uk@dcs.ed.ac.uk> <330c6189.25450463@news.demon.co.uk> <330d9bcc.89825113@news.demon.co.uk> <330d51e5.3876892@news.demon.co.uk> <330D6C52.2D61@europe.shiva.com> <330d70e5.11813403@news.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh
Newsgroups: eduni.dcs.cs3,eduni.dcs.cs4,eduni.dcs.cs2,eduni.dcs.cs1,eduni.dcs.tardis,eduni.ai.general,eduni.dcs.undergrad,eduni.general,ed.general,uk.business.telework,uk.telecom,uk.misc