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Kate Ho <klxh@dcs.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:959360195.2034028318@newshost.dcs.ed.ac.uk...
>
> >Of course students are allowed to go.
>
> Ok, then why does it say that it cannot accomdate students then?
> mmm ....???!!!

If you want to be literal, it's because they have no more hotel space!

> >It is simply that their attendance is
> >discouraged and certainly won't attract "student discount" if they did:
>
> 1. Why are we discouraged?

Because the expo is by definition a commercial venture, one that expects to
see Business Done and Palms Pressed. Not only do students not have the
capacity to authorise business purchases, but are also unlikely to be so
capable within a couple years. Wheeler Dealers -- the sort the expo makes
their money from -- do not want to be wheeler-dealing with students, ergo
they are discouraged.

Personnel staff may well want to see students, and be interested in meeting
some at the show. IWSTM that any student who is there when others are not
will have more time to put their best foot forward. That sounds like an
opportunity to me! Would you take it? Or stay away and argue with the show
staff about the terms under which that opportunity was presented?

> 2. Not ALL students are up for freebies. I wouldn't mind paying �20 for a
> ticket to go and see it. I'm not expecting any "special" treatment and
I'll
> seriously doubt that any other students would think the same. I simply
want the
> opportunity to go.

But you /have/ the opportunity to go as a regular member of the public, or
as whatever you claim to be on the enrolment form.

> I, to be honest, am expecting to be treated like dirt,
> because I know that there are people like yourself which think students
are a
> waste of space. And I'm willing to put up with that for an experience to
see
> what the hype about Linux is all about.

Hype there certainly will be. Truth may be a touch harder to find.

> >turn into a spotty-youth fest, for which look at the PCW
>
> Really, now? Do you really think so?

Yes, I was there, as student, member of the public, and "sales staff". After
a few years the place sold virtually nothing except floppy disks and furry
mice covers. It couldn't cover costs, and it closed. That was a great loss,
and it does not surprise me to see its successors try to avoid the same
fate.

> >Try lying. Or do you think that they'll send someone round to check? If
you
> >honestly believe that you need to be there, then put yourself down as
> >something -- anything -- and go.
>
> And if they find out, they won't chuck us out at all?

Are you intending to tell them? If not, why should they have any reason to
believe you are students?

> >Or stump up the public admissions fee. But
> >FFS get out of your ivory tower and quit thinking that students are
special
> >cases.
>
> Like I said, I don't think students are special cases. In fact, I'm sick
and
> tired of people who say we think we are "special". Cos we're not. And we
> certainly don't think we are.

So why should there be special arrangements to accomodate students, which is
what Mark originally asked for, and you agreed with?

> I don't think I'm more "special" than any of my
> other friends who did not go to university or even if they are on the
dole.
> All I'm saying is, if we don't get the chance to go then we are being
> typecast before you "try us out".  There's a word for that. It's
stereotyping.
> And as soon as society get rid of people who stereotype other people, the
> better.

Shush! Don't tell anyone in advertising that!
--
Alistair Mann