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8 total messages Started by M Holmes Wed, 31 May 2006 17:25
USS pension fund in deficit?
#18
Author: M Holmes
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 17:25
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Those hoping to collect a USS pension in future years may be interested
in the following:

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/300abac8-ef3f-11da-b435-0000779e2340.html

FoFP
Re: USS pension fund in deficit?
#19
Author: Sam Nelson
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 19:07
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In article <e5kjik$kdp$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes 
<fofp@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> says...
> Those hoping to collect a USS pension in future years may be interested
> in the following:
> 
> http://news.ft.com/cms/s/300abac8-ef3f-11da-b435-0000779e2340.html

Colour me not surprised.  It was only a matter of time.  Anyone under 
50 or so is going to be working until they drop.
-- 
SAm.
Re: USS pension fund in deficit?
#20
Author: Robert Inder
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 22:43
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>>>>> Sam Nelson writes:
    > Subject: Re: USS pension fund in deficit?
    > Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:07:41 +0100

    > In article <e5kjik$kdp$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes 
    > <fofp@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> says...
    >> Those hoping to collect a USS pension in future years may be interested
    >> in the following:
    >> 
    >> http://news.ft.com/cms/s/300abac8-ef3f-11da-b435-0000779e2340.html

    > Colour me not surprised.  It was only a matter of time.  Anyone under 
    > 50 or so is going to be working until they drop.

Oh... rhubarb!

They're going to be working until fifteen years before they are likely
to die.  

Which if five years (50%) more than their parents.

    > -- 
    > SAm.


Robert.

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Re: USS pension fund in deficit?
#21
Author: Sam Nelson
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:05
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In article <f51mzcxyfvs.fsf@3lg.org>,
 Robert Inder <robert@deadspam.com> writes:
> >>>>> Sam Nelson writes:
>     > Subject: Re: USS pension fund in deficit?
>     > Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:07:41 +0100
> 
>     > In article <e5kjik$kdp$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes 
>     > <fofp@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> says...
>     >> Those hoping to collect a USS pension in future years may be interested
>     >> in the following:
>     >> 
>     >> http://news.ft.com/cms/s/300abac8-ef3f-11da-b435-0000779e2340.html
> 
>     > Colour me not surprised.  It was only a matter of time.  Anyone under 
>     > 50 or so is going to be working until they drop.
> 
> Oh... rhubarb!

If you wish.  I still reckon we're all stuffed.  Live fast, die young,
have a good-looking corpse.

> They're going to be working until fifteen years before they are likely
> to die.  
> 
> Which if five years (50%) more than their parents.

Equally, USS itself claims there's nothing wrong at all, and that the author
of the article just doesn't like its investment strategy.  Still, what does
GBP6.6E9 count for these days?  Fiddling small change?
-- 
SAm.
Re: USS pension fund in deficit?
#22
Author: M Holmes
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:31
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In ed.general Sam Nelson <sam@ssrl.org.uk> wrote:

> Equally, USS itself claims there's nothing wrong at all, and that the author
> of the article just doesn't like its investment strategy.  Still, what does
> GBP6.6E9 count for these days?  Fiddling small change?

Relying on outperformance of an overweighting in equities was where
Standard Life placed their faith way back when. Ultimately the Regulator
forced them out and into bonds when the bet faileed to make good,
crystalising losses. This led up to yesterday's vote for demutualisation
since as the management pointed out "there is no Plan B".

As a strategy this amounts to the guy down on the Roulette table
punting all his losses on red in an effort to get back to even. If red
comes up, then everything is rosy. if black comes up...

USS can't demutualise its way out of trouble.

FoFP
Re: USS pension fund in deficit?
#23
Author: Sam Nelson
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:36
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In article <878xohxhub.fsf@news2.kororaa.com>,
 August West <august@kororaa.com> writes:
> sam@ssrl.org.uk (Sam Nelson) writes:
> 
> > If you wish.  I still reckon we're all stuffed.  Live fast, die
> > young, have a good-looking corpse.
> 
> You're too late, then, boyo.

Wretched, isn't it?
-- 
SAm.
Re: USS pension fund in deficit?
#24
Author: angus_creech
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:35
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> > > If you wish.  I still reckon we're all stuffed.  Live fast, die
> > > young, have a good-looking corpse.
> >
> > You're too late, then, boyo.
>
> Wretched, isn't it?

I don't know about "live fast", but Mike can certainly drink fast.

Angus
Re: USS pension fund in deficit?
#25
Author: angus_creech
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:43
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> > > Wretched, isn't it?
> >
> > I don't know about "live fast", but Mike can certainly drink fast.
>
> But there's no way he'll have a "good-looking corpse", is there?

What would Mike want with a good-looking corpse? 

Angus
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