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[OT] Escuchad el clamos de los administrados

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From: M� Jos� Toro Vaca
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:11
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Hola newsero

Como seguramente ya sabr�s las news espa�olas est�n en una etapa de profunda renovaci�n, sin duda para peor.
Este medio de comunicaci�n est� en peligro de desaparici�n por la escasez de miras de sus autoproclamados 
gestores que nunca han hecho nada por ellas y que cuando se ponen a hacer algo lo �nico que se les ocurre hacer 
es eliminar los grupos de binarios.

Para aquellos que no lo sep�is, un grupo de binarios es el espec�fico donde se env�an de forma natural los mensajes
cuyo contenido no es puramente texto y sirve precisamente para dar soporte al propio grupo de texto.

Cuando quise vender mi moto, adem�s del aviso en el grupo de compraventa respectivo puse una imagen de mi flamante
lobito en el grupo esp.binarios.misc para que los interesados la vieran, y la vend�. Cuando quise compartir con la
pe�a mis estupendas fotos polaroid del pasado eclipse lunar, las sub� al mismo grupo anterior y despu�s de avisarlo
en el grupo de ciencia en el que me muevo, los amigos tuvieron la oportunidad de verlas y disfrutar de ellas.

Gracias a la presi�n de quien nos suponemos, el comit� (anti)regulador de las news espa�olas (CORUS) ha decidido
que sobran esos grupos, por lo que desde el pasado uno de marzo sobrevivimos gracias a la generosidad de los servidores
que, de momento, hacen caso omiso del borrado de esos grupos y, sobre todo, a la presi�n de los usuarios que estamos
montando un aut�ntico debate en el grupo es.news.admin donde se han escrito m�s mensajes en estos �ltimos d�as que
en los 30 a�os de historia de la USENET espa�ola.

Si lees este mensaje de petici�n de ayuda, te rogar�a, con todo el respeto, que te pasaras por el grupo es.news.admin y
dieras tu opini�n (educada), sea cual sea la misma, fundamentalmente para mostrarle al CORUS que la
dictadura acab� ya hace 30 a�os y que ya va siendo hora de renovar unas estructuras arcaicas, dictatoriales y que
prescinden de la opini�n de los administrados.

Ver�s en el grupo distinta fauna (con perd�n). Los representantes del CORUS por una parte, funcionarios casi todos
ellos, en actitud chulesca y prepotente del "porque yo lo valgo". Hay por otra parte, usuarios ya cl�sicos de las news
que casi llegan a reptar por el suelo tratando de razonar con los anteriores. Est� tambi�n la omnipresente fauna de
Linux que detestan todo lo que huela a Windows y odian los grupos de binarios porque, en la Arcadia feliz en la que
se imaginan vivir todos vestidos de florecitas lilas, no cabe disfrutar de otras materialidades que la vida contemplativa
que propugnan. Tambi�n hay alg�n conocodo tocapelotas pero bueno, te ruego que entres con respeto y salgas con
educaci�n en el grupo es.news.admin porque lo que se est� dilucidando es muy muy serio y nos llega al alma de los
que usamos las news desde que flu�a por servidores y estaciones de trabajo unicamente.

Se que este mensaje se env�a haciendo uso de uno de tantos programa de spam (newsadmin) por lo que en principio es una
herej�a, pero quiere llegar a todos los grupos espa�oles. Soy consciente que molesta su env�o, pero a mi tambi�n me joroba
como usuario cada vez que el metro va a la huelga pero es su sacrosante derecho. Es el derecho a la libre expresi�n y a la
manifestaci�n pac�fica y ordenada. En este caso est� en juego algo m�s importante que el trabajo, est� en juego nuestra
libertad, que pretende ser cercenada por los de siempre.

Hay filtros y programas en marcha puestos para evitar este mensaje, lo que atenta contra la libertad de expresi�n, por eso
debo incluir a continuaci�n un p�rrafo en ingl�s diferente para cada mensaje, para diferenciar unos mensajes de otros y
evitar en lo posible ese filtado y facilitar su difusi�n.

Observar�s que tambi�n he puesto un nik que no es el m�o habitual: M� Jos� Toro Vaca<M�oa@ca.com> , 
Pongo este nick para evitar filtrados y dificultar cancelaciones de este mensaje. Yo soy sencillamente un miembro de
la comunidad newsera que demanda que no lesionen los intereses de los newseros, o que al menos se consulte con los
usuarios la pertinencia de una medida tan impopular.

Enviar� el mensaje cuantas veces haga falta como medida de protesta ante esta monumental arbitrariedad hasta que el
CORUS desista de la idea de la cancelaci�n de los grupos de binarios y de marcha atr�s en su decisi�n.

Saludos cordiales.

Un newsero cabreado por el atropello.

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From: M� Jos� Toro Vaca<M�oa@ca.com>
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Subject: [OT] Escuchad el clamos de los administrados
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:11:35 GMT
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