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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 02:42:24 +0200, "MK" <mkpub@ono.com> wrote:

>Me han comentado que es uno de los mejores ensambladores para MSX y que
>adem�s soporta el juego de instrucciones R800 del Turbo-R...

Aqui tienes un poco de info sobre el COMPASSembler

History

The COMPjoetania ASSembler was made by Remo Jongeneelen, Eric van
Beurden and David Heremans. Version 1.0 and version 1.1 were released,
but they still contained some nasty bugs. Everybody was expecting a
new version 2.0...BUT...what nobody had expected, happened...

A year ago the Dutch members of Compjoetania (like Remo & Eric)
decided to stop programming for the MSX. Nevertheless their Belgian
member, David -who had programmed the Compass Debugger-, wanted of
course to continue.

David, who had already gathered some members for the new group, had
asked Remo for the sources of Compass, because he had only the sources
of the debugger which he had made. That was of course no problem for
Eric and Remo. They would give the sources as soon as possible. We can
understand that they wouldn't come to Belgium to bring them over, but
when David repeatedly tried to contact them, they were always
searching for excuses or they didn't respond at all.

Available versions

So this summer we started to disassemble the current 1.1 version. A
1.2beta FULLY-FUNCTIONAL promoversion is finished now and was released
on the MCCM-CDROM and on 'Wichert's CD'. Unfortunately MCCM used a
wrong version of our promo. This version contains a bug on Turbo-R:
each interrupt, the CPU-mode is switched to R800-ROM. Believe it or
not, but this bug is caused by only one wrong bit in the code!

At the fair in Tilburg (April 25, 1998) we have released the final 1.2
version. In fact, this is merely a version for some time to come,
because in September we will release Compass #2.0 with a lot of
extras! (supersmart disassembly, I/O monitor, ...)

Compass #1.2 is sold for 700 Belgian Francs or 40 Dutch Guilders.
People who already have an original Compassversion enjoy a 50%
reduction!!! All buyers of, or upgraders to #1.2 will get #2.0 for
free. This program is certainly worth its money. Whether you upgrade
or not, Compass #1.2 and #2.0 will be on a new disk with fullcolour
label!!!

Compass #1.2 - Features

    * Compass is an extensive MSX-assembler which consists of an
Editor, Monitor, Debugger/Disassembler and ofcourse an Assembler.
    * Compass requires a MSX2 with at least 80kB of mapped memory, but
for normal use we recommend a mapper of at least 256kB.
    * Compass supports: DOS 2.xx, R800, Memman, several memorymappers
also under DOS1
    * Installable on harddisk
    * All functions can be reached in pulldownmenu's or by keyboard
shortcuts
    * Memoryresident

*ASSEMBLER/EDITOR

    * editing of 4 sourcebuffers at the same time, each 256kB
    * labellenght from 6 to 20
    * assembly to:
          o memory
          o disk
          o TSR (directly to disk, without a linker!)
          o relocatable file
    * Labellist
    * Errorlist, will save all errors
    * All known hex. and bin. id's
    * Extensive search/replace function
    * CPU registeredit
    * possibility to start compiled programs for testing
    * many blockfunctions
    * (recursive) macro's
    * conditional assembly

*MONITOR

    * Realtime updated display
    * Many functions like Peek/Poke/Fill/Move
    * Extensive search and compare function

*DEBUGGER/DISASSEMBLER

    * 15 breakpoints
    * Stackviewer to control the stack
    * Mini-monitor (can be linked to the cursor or Program Counter)
    * displaying RST as normal or in MSXmode
    * I/O ports can be protected
    * Interception of slotswitching
    * Disassembly to a sourcebuffer

Compass #2.0 - Some of the things we will probably add to #1.2

    * Totally new memorymanagement
    * Virtual Memory Use
    * Larger sourcebuffers
    * I/O monitor
    * Totally new ASM-format for faster assembly
    * Faster compiling and searching capabilities

>�Como puedo conseguirlo?

esta es su pagina :  http://users.pandora.be/jon/msx/ctng.html

>
>Gracias.
>

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 02:42:24 +0200, "MK" <mkpub@ono.com> wrote:

>Me han comentado que es uno de los mejores ensambladores para MSX y que
>adem�s soporta el juego de instrucciones R800 del Turbo-R...
>�Como puedo conseguirlo?

Ciertamente de los mejores ensambladores DESDE MSX ( otra opci�n es
usar ensambladores cruzados desde PC).

De lo que runewno ha posteado, qu�date con la web de Compjoetania, los
autores de COMPASS, que es d�nde deber�s pedirlo ( es un programa de
pago). De todas formas, Compjoertania hace A�OS que deber�a haber
sacado la versi�n 2 y a�n no lo ha hecho, as� que no s� hasta que
punto siguen con el desarrollo de COMPASS ( f�jate que la web lleva
largo tiempo sin actualizarse). Por eso me gustar�a pedirte que si te
llegan a contestar nos lo cuentes luego, para saber como est� el
estado de la cuesti�n. Si no te contestaran, pregunta por
comp.sys.msx, las news internacionales, d�nde creo que  el �nico que
queda de Compjoetania se pasa de vez en cuando.

Tambi�n te recomendar�a, por ejemplo, la suite de compilaci�n cruzada
desde PC para MSX de los TEDDY WAREZ: Chaos Assembler 3. Que lleva
incorporado varias utilidades, as� como un editor de pantallas y
sprites, y que adem�s se puede conseguir dese la web de www.msx.org a
muy bu�n precio.

Skyblasc

Gracias por toda la informaci�n. Ya me he puesto en contacto con ellos y
esta es su respuesta:

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Hello !

Compass 2.0 is not ready for release yet.
Currently the latest version is 1.2.09
Whenever 2.0 will be finished, the update to 2.0 will be free for 1.2 users.

Compass 1.2 can be ordered by sending a 20 euro bill to:

Jon De Schrijder / CTNG
Hofstraat 20
9470 Denderleeuw
Belgium
Europe

Don't forget to mention your name and address!

As soon as I get it, I will then send you the disk, and also by email so you
can already enjoy it.

Best regards,

Jon / Compjoetania The Next Generation

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segun parece siguen con la idea de sacar la versi�n #2.0, aunque por lo que
me habeis dicho parece algo dificil...en fin, imagino que el ensamblador
(aunque sea una versi�n con cierto tiempo y con un futuro algo turbio)
merece la pena.

Saludos.
MK

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 04:05:34 +0200, "MK" <mkpub@ono.com> wrote:

>Gracias por toda la informaci�n. Ya me he puesto en contacto con ellos y
>esta es su respuesta:
>
>----------------------------------------
>Hello !
>
>Compass 2.0 is not ready for release yet.

PPfff.... Vaya novedad. LLevan as� desde el 99 creo! :-)

>segun parece siguen con la idea de sacar la versi�n #2.0, aunque por lo que

La verdad no creo que lo lleguen a sacar, pero eh! Nunca se sabe.

>me habeis dicho parece algo dificil...en fin, imagino que el ensamblador
>(aunque sea una versi�n con cierto tiempo y con un futuro algo turbio)
>merece la pena.

Te aseguro que es una maravilla de ensamblador, y que vale realmente
la pena. Eso s�, si quieres programar de forma seria para MSX y
quieres hacerlo DESDE MSX.

20 Euros sigue siendo a�n despu�s de estos a�os, un bu�n precio por
COMPASS. Adem�s, lo recibir�s bon�tamente personalizado ( se mostrar�
tu nombre como usuario licenciado) y s� es cierto que yo, que compr�
una versi�n anterior, recib� una actualizaci�n gratuita por email. As�
que en eso son de fiar.

Otros ensambladores cl�sicos para ir probando de compilar algunas
cosillas son el GEN o el RSC-II. Y si no, PC y tnASM o Chaos
Assembler3.

Un saludo y gracias por postear la respuesta  de Compjoetania ^_^

Skyblasc