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Article #78Gay Priest ??
From: Linux User
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 00:00
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Hi there We heard these days about the Christian conference that was held last week to discuss whether to allow such thing as gay priest. Well, I'm not religious -depending on what your definition of religious is-, but I am a christian who worries about the future of christianity in the world. I am writing this just to express my point of view which you may agree with it or probably not. + + + + + + + + + Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. ---------------------- Do you agree here that he created them a male and a female, not two males and not two females + + + + + + + + + Genesis 1:28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground." --------------------- You might even agree with me that the reason behind having a male and a female (and thereby sex) is to increase in number and fill the earth -not to sin-. + + + + ++ + + + The First Letter to the Corinthians: 6:9 �Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders -------------------- What can I see here, homosexuality is considered a sin?....so if so how can a man of God be a sinner. Still not convinced yet, see this + + + + + + + + + Romans 1:24 �Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. + + + + + + + + + Romans 1:26 �Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. + + + + + + + + + Romans 1:27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. ---------------------- No one can argue that being gay is approved by the bible or even considered normal. Keep in mind that I'm not discussing anything about gay rights. When it comes to that, I agree with you that it is your right to be gay. I'm sure the day will come when someone discovers sees that a horse can mate with a donkey -serious- and claims rights to mate with an animal. Lets return back to our point, even though the gays have civil rights they should not head the church or even dream of it...why? read this: + + + + + + + + + Timothy I 3:2 Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, + + + + + + + + + Titus 1:6 An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. 1:7 Since an overseer [b] is entrusted with God's work, he must be blameless--not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. ---------------------- He never mentioned that he can be in a gay relationship. I'm not saying that they should be kept out of church -though I wish they would- because + + + + + + + + + Timothy I 1:9 We also know that law [a] is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, ---------------------- But this only means that they can be members of the church, it doesn't say that they should be priests or bishops or whatever. I think that we are lucky that these things existed before that is why they are mentioned in the bible clearly so that no one can speak: + + + + + + + + + Galatians 3:19 �What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. + + + + + + ++ + Timothy I 6:20 �Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge, ---------------------- Now before I get flammed, I think that God trusted us on his church and it would be a huge mistake if we tolerate this nonsense. All it takes is a small crack for a bit dam to collapse. If we give up easily, God knows what can happen next. If your interested in the topic, I think you should read the old testament in particular the "Deuteronomy", it will make your hair fall when you imagine if something like this was only suggested in the old times. + + + + + + + + + Timothy I Chapter 4 1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Luke Chapter 17 1 Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to sin are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come. 2 It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin. 3 So watch yourselves. --------------------- This is exactly what is happening these days. I wish you knew that there are lots of Christian minorities in the middle east, yes more than you know. Depending on the country they range from 20% to 80% with Saudi Arabia, the only country with no christians at all. This kind of nonsense is one of the convincing weapons that is being used to convince the poor (as in poverty) christians to switch religions. + + + + + + + + + Timothy II 3:1 �But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days........3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. ---------------------- Translation from NIV HyperBible from Beacon Technology Inc. Attached is a photo of : "The apparition of St. Mary over her Cathedral (a small church then) in Cairo, Egypt. Late 60s" -- Please reply to ----------------------- *********sedky@computer.org**********
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 111ca0,d60aa097134f6761,start X-Google-Attributes: gid111ca0,public From: "Linux User" <name@domain.com> Subject: Gay Priest ?? Date: 1998/08/21 Message-ID: <01bdccbb$796a4440$2190fdcf@wasedky.interlinx.qc.ca> X-Deja-AN: 383228796 X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.net X-Trace: wagner.videotron.net 903673095 207.253.145.4 (Fri, 21 Aug 1998 00:18:15 EDT) Organization: news.interlinx.qc.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 00:18:15 EDT Newsgroups: essug.copt