🚀 go-pugleaf

Siobhan Medeiros wrote:
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>>
>> They managed to sit out most of WWI. The didn't declare war until the
>> Allies started gaining ground against the Germans, and it was the
>> Canadians who succeeded where others had failed.  When they finally did
>> get their men over to Europe they refused to take the advice of the
>> British and Canadians about the tactics that had worked for them, so
>> when they finally got into combat they reverted to the old ways, which
>> had failed, and they got creamed.
> 
> Yeah, contrary to what their propaganda tells you, Americans don't
> have what you would call a sterling war record.  They screwed up the
> Korean War, the Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Grenada, and now, Iraq and their
> share of Afghanistan.

But they have an excellent record for indoctrinating their people with 
lots of propaganda to make it look like they are doing a great job, and 
use political pressure to march into open cities to liberate them after 
someone else has done the fighting. That is what they did in Rome and 
Antwerp. In both cases it was Canadians and British who defeated the 
enemy and the Americans who marched in as the victors/liberators.

Speaking of Bay of Pigs.... it is little wonder that the Cubans have 
such a low opinion of the US. The US had been trying to acquire Cuba for 
more than 100 years before the Bay of Pigs fiasco. They started back in 
the 1850s. they lobbied Britain and France to allow them to seize it. 
They were willing to buy it, or to take it by force. That was pretty 
much the way the grabbed what is now the south western US. They tried to 
buy the territory from Mexico, but when the offer was rejected, so they 
provoked a war, and they settled the war by paying Mexico what they had 
previously offered.

Americans have whined long and hard about Canada hiding under its 
defence umbrella. The fact of the matter is that we have never had to 
defend ourselves from anyone but the US. They have tried to invade us 
several times. They tried to invade Canada in the War of 1812, and 
failed, and still think that they won that war. Then the US colluded 
with the Fenians, allowing, even encouraging them to take over Canada. 
As far as invasions and self defence go, we have never had to defend 
ourselves from anyone other than the US.


They were whining a few years ago about how they had saved Europe twice, 
but they overlook the fact that they tried really hard to stay out of 
those conflicts. Instead, they let the Europeans  pound the hell out of 
each other until they saw which way the wars were going.

You cannot dispute that the US is a super power. It has the arms, 
equipment and modern technology. But it doesn't have is good troops on 
the ground.  Sure, they have a few units of elite troops, but those guys 
  face the brunt of the action and there is no one else to back them up.

Look at their great heroes of the invasion of Iraq. They mounted a well 
choreographed and  filmed rescue of Jessica Lynch ..... after the Iraqi 
medical staff came across the lines to tell them that they should come 
and get her because the Iraqi soldiers had vacated. And what sort of 
hero was she?  She doesn't remember being raped, as they claimed she had 
been. She didn't fight off the enemy until she ran out of ammunition. 
Her rifle was jammed and she never fired a single shot. She was not 
involved in a combat mission. She was a passenger in a vehicle on a 
supply run, and they got lost and bumbled their way into an Iraqi 
position where they got wiped out.  And that was the best they could 
come up with for a hero.