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On Jan 7, 5:00 pm, Dave Smith <adavid.sm...@DELETETOREPLYsympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Siobhan Medeiros wrote:
>
> >> They managed to sit out most of WWI. The didn't declare war until the
> >> Allies started gaining ground against the Germans, and it was the
> >> Canadians who succeeded where others had failed.  When they finally did
> >> get their men over to Europe they refused to take the advice of the
> >> British and Canadians about the tactics that had worked for them, so
> >> when they finally got into combat they reverted to the old ways, which
> >> had failed, and they got creamed.
>
> > Yeah, contrary to what their propaganda tells you, Americans don't
> > have what you would call a sterling war record.  They screwed up the
> > Korean War, the Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Grenada, and now, Iraq and their
> > share of Afghanistan.
>
> But they have an excellent record for indoctrinating their people with
> lots of propaganda to make it look like they are doing a great job, and
> use political pressure to march into open cities to liberate them after
> someone else has done the fighting. That is what they did in Rome and
> Antwerp. In both cases it was Canadians and British who defeated the
> enemy and the Americans who marched in as the victors/liberators.
>
> Speaking of Bay of Pigs.... it is little wonder that the Cubans have
> such a low opinion of the US. The US had been trying to acquire Cuba for
> more than 100 years before the Bay of Pigs fiasco. They started back in
> the 1850s. they lobbied Britain and France to allow them to seize it.
> They were willing to buy it, or to take it by force. That was pretty
> much the way the grabbed what is now the south western US. They tried to
> buy the territory from Mexico, but when the offer was rejected, so they
> provoked a war, and they settled the war by paying Mexico what they had
> previously offered.
>
> Americans have whined long and hard about Canada hiding under its
> defence umbrella. The fact of the matter is that we have never had to
> defend ourselves from anyone but the US. They have tried to invade us
> several times. They tried to invade Canada in the War of 1812, and
> failed, and still think that they won that war. Then the US colluded
> with the Fenians, allowing, even encouraging them to take over Canada.
> As far as invasions and self defence go, we have never had to defend
> ourselves from anyone other than the US.
>
> They were whining a few years ago about how they had saved Europe twice,
> but they overlook the fact that they tried really hard to stay out of
> those conflicts. Instead, they let the Europeans  pound the hell out of
> each other until they saw which way the wars were going.
>
> You cannot dispute that the US is a super power. It has the arms,
> equipment and modern technology. But it doesn't have is good troops on
> the ground.  Sure, they have a few units of elite troops, but those guys
>   face the brunt of the action and there is no one else to back them up.
>
> Look at their great heroes of the invasion of Iraq. They mounted a well
> choreographed and  filmed rescue of Jessica Lynch ..... after the Iraqi
> medical staff came across the lines to tell them that they should come
> and get her because the Iraqi soldiers had vacated. And what sort of
> hero was she?  She doesn't remember being raped, as they claimed she had
> been. She didn't fight off the enemy until she ran out of ammunition.
> Her rifle was jammed and she never fired a single shot. She was not
> involved in a combat mission. She was a passenger in a vehicle on a
> supply run, and they got lost and bumbled their way into an Iraqi
> position where they got wiped out.  And that was the best they could
> come up with for a hero.

My personal favorite is the "glorious" invasion of Grenada.  The sole
purpose of the mission was the give the US one for the "win" column,
and yet they managed to screw that one up.

- Deployed troops so quickly in at least one case they left without
their commanding officer

- Had SEALS drown because they dropped them in the wrong spot

- Paratrooped an entire division of 200 rangers on top of a Grenadian
position, who could have burned them all before they set foot on the
ground had they not been told to hold their fire

- Didn't bother to find out the location of the campus where the
students they were supposed to be rescuing (from what, I have no idea)
were at.

- Shelled a mental asylum

- Deployed troops without radios, so when they got there they just sat
there trying to figure out what they were supposed to do next

- Didn't bother to get MAPS of the country they were invading

- Issued infantry 100-pound backpacks in the middle of a Caribbean
summer.

- Sent a squad of SEALS to "rescue" the British ambassador, who then
got stuck on a roof and had to be rescued themselves


And these idiots are supposed to be protecting US?

The day the US decides to invade Canada, Mexico better watch out.