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Re: Cowardly Canadians should fight in Iraq!!!

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From: Dave Smith
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:30
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SaPeIsMa wrote:
> "The General Public: .Are.. Lobotomized Sheep.." <The General Public.. 
> Are. Lobotomized Sheep....@..711.34512..WBCHNC.News.ukuscan.ca> wrote in 
> message news:_6V8l.2288$Db2.1027@edtnps83...
>>
>> Don't forget Vietnam, where the north VC's crushed the American'
>> invaders...and cowardly fools like faghorn where molested in the VC's
>> camps.......
>>
>>
> 
> Too bad you are a prime example of "lobotomized"
> The ONLY reason North Vietnam took over the South was because the Dems 
> abandonned the South Vietnamese
> After the Tet Offensive, the North Vietnamese KNEW that they had been 
> militarily defeated
> Their top general admitted as much in his memoirs
> That is why the North Vietnamese then put all their propaganda efforts 
> into the Paris Peace talks
> Because they knew that was the ONLY way for them to have the lefties in 
> the US help them snatch a diplomatice victory from the jaws of military 
> defeat.


To paraphrase what he said to the American general who said that they 
never beat the Americans on the battlefield, that is irrelevant. The 
fact is that they won. The whole conflict could have been avoided had 
there been a plebiscite on the reunification of Vietnam as per the 
Geneva Accord, but the US lost interest in the democratic process when 
they realized that the North would have won it. Instead, they 
backed a corrupt regime simple because it was anti communist, and they 
later backed a coup to remove the president. They pulled out of Vietnam 
knowing that the South Vietnamese government was corrupt and that they 
could never hold off the north.

They had their chance to beat the Viet Minh at Dien Bein Phu when the 
French requested air strikes against the enemy positions surrounding the 
French forces. Instead, they allowed the French to be defeated, and then 
ended up losing 60,000 of their own troops, and hundreds of thousands 
more wounded, and wasting billions of dollars...... and lost.  It is a 
recurring theme. Americans are on the winning side when they join their 
friends and allies in a noble cause, but when they go it alone in major 
conflicts they end up losing.
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