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Article #211Re: new powers for employers to read employees' email
From: Angus McBastard
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:19
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:19
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seajays@my-deja.com wrote: > > Please understand, I really *do* sympathise with you over the problems > associated with bad software, and I would like to see the law > strengthened in the related areas to prevent such 'rip-offs' occurring > and giivng power back to consumers to insist that corrections are made > when software is not fit for purpose. But I still must maintain that > all that can be achieved, without removing fundamental rights of people > not to have their work copied and used by others for their gain, if > they so wish. Your sympathy is noted and understood with gladness, but I still think you are not addressing the point I am at pains to try to make: that closed-source software is *by definition* unfit for the purpose it was sold for. Furthermore, if I want to be a criminal and steal software or even copyrighted algorithms of yours you know very well that I don't need the source code if I am so inclined. So in practical terms I'd say the fundamental right you are talking about is rather unaffected by all this. > > If people want to provide the source code of their creations then that > is fine - I have no problem with that, but if they don't then that is > their right and you should not be able to take away that right - just > don't use the software if you find the conditions unacceptable. > Up until very recently this choice was also imaginary, due to the fact that any possible concurrents to the dominant OS'es were ruthlessly absorbed, if they couldn't be financially crushed. This I would say is the reason why Open Source software is often mistakenly assumed to be software that is given away for nothing: In order to beat corporate skulduggery and produce a suite of tools that could vie for mainstream status against "that which shall not be named for fear of a lawsuit", it was necessary to produce it under a framework that could not be directly financially crippled, so the obvious way was to make the source available at no cost to the user and incorporate modifications via a more-or-less centrally-regulated system of voluntarty contributions. The only real licencing requirement of note is that the source for the modifications themselves be covered by the same licencing arrangement. The software I write is almost exclusively distributed as source alone, unless a customer has special technical requirements for a binary distribution, or no access to a compiler in the case of some windows victims, but It is certainly not gratis. And quite a decent living I make from it too, as do more and more people today: reaping the rewards of our own creativity instead of suffering the taxation of providing added value and leverage to Microsoft products. Angus -- It said WinNT 4.0 or better on the box. So I installed Linux.
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