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Article #10[analytic] Re: Philosophy Books You Were Most Excited About
From: larry_tapper
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:15
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:15
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--- In analytic@yahoogroups.com, "walto" <calhorn@...> wrote: > > Larry, I guess nobody but you and I has ever been excited about a philosophy publication. W, Oh, I wouldn't say that. We still have a few more readers here. And while this group has bounced back after lying fallow for a while, the number of active posters is still quite small. As I've written before, I think that Yahoo Groups is inevitably a declining medium anyway, due to new competition from academic blogs and social media. As for your complaints about quality, I think former poster Bruce Feinstein put his finger on it when he wrote that the problem is basically lack of selection pressure, comparable to what we'd find in any classroom. My own preference would be for what Kuhn called "normal science". That is, I feel that things are going well when we have active posters who exhibit the mentality of philosophy graduate students, or who *are* graduate students. (Pierre-Normand was an outstanding case in point, I thought.) But it's probably unrealistic to expect that to happen very often in an open group... LT There could be many reasons for this: > > * Limited interest in philosophy/literature (being charitable about it, maybe they were spending their excitement on the upcoming Grateful Dead release or something). > > * Young enough that everything has "always" been free on-line and available....whenever. > > *Always been rich enough that they could get any book they wanted whenever they felt like it. > > *Lack of romance/nostalgia--they are people on whom the final passage in Conrad's "Youth" [see below] has no effect. > > *(Much more interested in admiring their repetitive posts on consciousness, as if they had other merits besides, you know, being by them, than in reading anything by any lesser mortal. > > * More than one of them is mostly Clairian. > > Here's the Conrad: > **************************** > > He drank. > > "Ah! The good old time�the good old time. Youth and the sea. Glamour and the sea! The good, strong sea, the salt, bitter sea, that could whisper to you and roar at you and knock your breath out of you." > > He drank again. > > "By all that's wonderful, it is the sea, I believe, the sea itself�or is it youth alone? Who can tell? But you here�you all had something out of life: money, love�whatever one gets on shore�and, tell me, wasn't that the best time, that time when we were young at sea; young and had nothing, on the sea that gives nothing, except hard knocks�and sometimes a chance to feel your strength�that only�what you all regret?" > > And we all nodded at him: the man of finance, the man of accounts, the man of law, we all nodded at him over the polished table that like a still sheet of brown water reflected our faces, lined, wrinkled; our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone�has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash�together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions. > > ************************** > > > > The moral is: you've got to find some new blood for this group, Larry. Too many 'bots here. > W >
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