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[Caml-list] Re: Problems to get larger user base ...

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From: Christophe TROESTLER
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 07:19
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Hi,

Those interested in that should help Sylvain to develop oasis2debian�
and other helpers.  Oasis has rich metadata and can be the "root" from
which packages are created (there is also oasis2opam� which usually
performs a better job than humans ;-) ).

Best,
C.

� https://github.com/ocaml/oasis2debian
� https://github.com/ocaml/oasis2opam

On Wed, 29 May 2013 17:57:33 -0700, Chet Murthy wrote:
> 
> OK.  A little more.  OPAM is already a tremendous improvement.  But to
> really make it possible to build -systems- in Ocaml, you have to be
> able to distribute collections of programs, config, and libraries,
> across multiple (admittedly identical) machines.  And distribute
> updates to same.  OPAM is in some ways like BSD ports -- it works
> great for maintaining single machines from source-code.
> 
> But what's needed is a way to maintain -many- machines, and to
> distribute updates in a granular manner that be -managed- -- rolled
> forward, rolled back, with full knowledge of which versions of which
> packages are being installed.  And everything with -zero- version
> skew.  So any nondeterminism happened at buiild-time -- by
> deploy-time, all machines are getting identical files with identical
> timestamps.
> 
> It's a tall order, b/c OPAM will need to figure out how to capture
> enough of the environment (in order to check it on the target machine
> where a binary is installed) to verify whether it's safe to install
> that binary.  But boy would it be nice.
> 
> And as a bonus, we could wrapper opam in the debian apparatus (I
> think) and get a really nice way to turn opam packages into debian
> packages.

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