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From: Christophe TROESTLER
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Hi, Those interested in that should help Sylvain to develop oasis2debian� and other helpers. Oasis has rich metadata and can be the "root" from which packages are created (there is also oasis2opam� which usually performs a better job than humans ;-) ). Best, C. � https://github.com/ocaml/oasis2debian � https://github.com/ocaml/oasis2opam On Wed, 29 May 2013 17:57:33 -0700, Chet Murthy wrote: > > OK. A little more. OPAM is already a tremendous improvement. But to > really make it possible to build -systems- in Ocaml, you have to be > able to distribute collections of programs, config, and libraries, > across multiple (admittedly identical) machines. And distribute > updates to same. OPAM is in some ways like BSD ports -- it works > great for maintaining single machines from source-code. > > But what's needed is a way to maintain -many- machines, and to > distribute updates in a granular manner that be -managed- -- rolled > forward, rolled back, with full knowledge of which versions of which > packages are being installed. And everything with -zero- version > skew. So any nondeterminism happened at buiild-time -- by > deploy-time, all machines are getting identical files with identical > timestamps. > > It's a tall order, b/c OPAM will need to figure out how to capture > enough of the environment (in order to check it on the target machine > where a binary is installed) to verify whether it's safe to install > that binary. But boy would it be nice. > > And as a bonus, we could wrapper opam in the debian apparatus (I > think) and get a really nice way to turn opam packages into debian > packages. -- Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs
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