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On 20 September 2011 08:52, Robert Dörfler <rodo@zlug.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i just installed NetBSD5.1 on my AlphaPC 164LX some days ago.When i was
> starting X i realized that its not the usual xorg/xfree86.Its XdecNetBSD.
> I'm just wondering why its included on the iso-distribution.
> Isnt there an usual xorg/xfree86 package around for alpha?

I believe it is built from Xfree86 - the source is in
xsrc/xfree/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/netbsd/dec, but that particular X
binary is built for the specific dec framebuffers.

There is also an XalphaNetBSD X server, but I'm not sure what it
supports - maybe someone more familiar can speak up?

In an ideal world all the dec specific drivers should be ported across
to X11R7, and the X server should be built to also support generic PCI
graphics cards...

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 09:52:11AM +0200, Robert D�rfler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i just installed NetBSD5.1 on my AlphaPC 164LX some days ago.When i was
> starting X i realized that its not the usual xorg/xfree86.Its
> XdecNetBSD. I'm just wondering why its included on the
> iso-distribution.
> Isnt there an usual xorg/xfree86 package around for alpha?

By default the alpha port still uses the old XFree86 tree, but you
should be able to rebuild from source with X11FLAVOUR=Xorg
(I did use it when I still had a working alpha XP1000)

-- 
Manuel Bouyer <bouyer@antioche.eu.org>
     NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la difference
--

Am 20.09.2011 21:33, schrieb Manuel Bouyer:
 > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 09:52:11AM +0200, Robert D�rfler wrote:
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> i just installed NetBSD5.1 on my AlphaPC 164LX some days ago.When i was
 >> starting X i realized that its not the usual xorg/xfree86.Its
 >> XdecNetBSD. I'm just wondering why its included on the
 >> iso-distribution.
 >> Isnt there an usual xorg/xfree86 package around for alpha?
 >
 > By default the alpha port still uses the old XFree86 tree, but you
 > should be able to rebuild from source with X11FLAVOUR=Xorg
 > (I did use it when I still had a working alpha XP1000)

Its been some while. If i try to build Xorg it stops compiling at
"/usr/pkgsrc/sysutils/libpciaccess" with:

ERROR: This package is only available for these platforms: 
FreeBSD-*-i386 NetBSD-*-i386 OpenBSD-*-i386 FreeBSD-*-x86_64 
NetBSD-*-x86_64 OpenBSD-*-x86_64 DragonFly-*-i386 DragonFly-*-x86_64 
Linux-*-* SunOS-*-* NetBSD-*-sparc64.
ERROR: This package has set PKG_FAIL_REASON:
ERROR: libpciaccess-0.11.0nb1 is not available for NetBSD-5.1_STABLE-alpha
*** Error code 1

So, i tried to add NetBSD-*-alpha as platform in the Makefile and
libpciaccess will build with a few warnings knowing that this will
surely will crash later. So, i tried to build modular-xorg-server
which will end here:

alpha_video.c:44:21: error: xf86Axp.h: No such file or directory
alpha_video.c:59: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or 
'__attribute__' before 'bsdGetAXP'
libtool: compile:  cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../../include 
-I../../../../hw/xfree86 -I../../../../hw/xfree86/include 
-I../../../../hw/xfree86/common -I../../../../hw/xfree86/os-support 
-I../../../../hw/xfree86/os-support/bus -I../../../../os 
-I/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/.buildlink/include 
-I/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/.buildlink/include/freetype2 
-DUSESTDRES -DHAVE_XORG_CONFIG_H -DHAVE_DIX_CONFIG_H -Wall 
-Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -fno-strict-aliasing 
-D_REENTRANT -D_BSD_SOURCE -DHAS_FCHOWN -DHAS_STICKY_DIR_BIT 
-I/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/.buildlink/include/pixman-1 
-I../../../../Xext -I../../../../composite -I../../../../damageext 
-I../../../../xfixes -I../../../../Xi -I../../../../mi 
-I../../../../miext/shadow -I../../../../miext/damage 
-I../../../../render -I../../../../randr -I../../../../fb -O2 -pipe 
-mieee -MT bsd_axp.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/bsd_axp.Tpo -c bsd_axp.c  -fPIC 
-DPIC -o .libs/bsd_axp.o


After fixing that, i got:

misym.c:127: warning: 'miPointerAbsoluteCursor' is deprecated (declared 
at ../../../mi/mipointer.h:126)xf86sym.c:702: error: 'outw' undeclared 
here (not in a function)
xf86sym.c:703: error: 'outb' undeclared here (not in a function)
xf86sym.c:704: error: 'outl' undeclared here (not in a function)
xf86sym.c:705: error: 'inb' undeclared here (not in a function)
xf86sym.c:706: error: 'inw' undeclared here (not in a function)
xf86sym.c:707: error: 'inl' undeclared here (not in a function)

misym.c:128: warning: 'miPointerCurrentScreen' is deprecated (declared 
at ../../../mi/mipointer.h:131)gmake[4]: *** [xf86sym.o] Error 1

misym.c:130: warning: 'miPointerWarpCursor' is deprecated (declared at 
./../../mi/mipointer.h:111)
gmake[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
mv -f .deps/misym.Tpo .deps/misym.Po
mv -f .deps/loadmod.Tpo .deps/loadmod.Po
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw/xfree86/loader'
gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw/xfree86'
gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw/xfree86'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw'
gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
*** Error code 2

Stop.
make: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/x11/modular-xorg-server
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/x11/modular-xorg-server

I was able to build modular-xorg some time ago however on startx
netbsd was crashing immediately. So Xorg was unusable  for me in the
end. You need to add -lalpha in Makefile if you want to build Xorg at
all. About these errors you probably need to look how those functions
are defined. Also there were some diffs in the groups from some other
person who managed to build and run it too
(http://old.nabble.com/X.org-1.3.0-server-on-NetBSD-alpha-td13057190.html).
It can be as reference point too.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Robert Dörfler <rodo@zlug.org> wrote:
> Am 20.09.2011 21:33, schrieb Manuel Bouyer:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 09:52:11AM +0200, Robert Dörfler wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> i just installed NetBSD5.1 on my AlphaPC 164LX some days ago.When i was
>>> starting X i realized that its not the usual xorg/xfree86.Its
>>> XdecNetBSD. I'm just wondering why its included on the
>>> iso-distribution.
>>> Isnt there an usual xorg/xfree86 package around for alpha?
>>
>> By default the alpha port still uses the old XFree86 tree, but you
>> should be able to rebuild from source with X11FLAVOUR=Xorg
>> (I did use it when I still had a working alpha XP1000)
>
> Its been some while. If i try to build Xorg it stops compiling at
> "/usr/pkgsrc/sysutils/libpciaccess" with:
>
> ERROR: This package is only available for these platforms: FreeBSD-*-i386
> NetBSD-*-i386 OpenBSD-*-i386 FreeBSD-*-x86_64 NetBSD-*-x86_64
> OpenBSD-*-x86_64 DragonFly-*-i386 DragonFly-*-x86_64 Linux-*-* SunOS-*-*
> NetBSD-*-sparc64.
> ERROR: This package has set PKG_FAIL_REASON:
> ERROR: libpciaccess-0.11.0nb1 is not available for NetBSD-5.1_STABLE-alpha
> *** Error code 1
>
> So, i tried to add NetBSD-*-alpha as platform in the Makefile and
> libpciaccess will build with a few warnings knowing that this will
> surely will crash later. So, i tried to build modular-xorg-server
> which will end here:
>
> alpha_video.c:44:21: error: xf86Axp.h: No such file or directory
> alpha_video.c:59: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__'
> before 'bsdGetAXP'
> libtool: compile:  cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../../include
> -I../../../../hw/xfree86 -I../../../../hw/xfree86/include
> -I../../../../hw/xfree86/common -I../../../../hw/xfree86/os-support
> -I../../../../hw/xfree86/os-support/bus -I../../../../os
> -I/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/.buildlink/include
> -I/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/.buildlink/include/freetype2
> -DUSESTDRES -DHAVE_XORG_CONFIG_H -DHAVE_DIX_CONFIG_H -Wall -Wpointer-arith
> -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations
> -Wnested-externs -fno-strict-aliasing -D_REENTRANT -D_BSD_SOURCE
> -DHAS_FCHOWN -DHAS_STICKY_DIR_BIT
> -I/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/.buildlink/include/pixman-1
> -I../../../../Xext -I../../../../composite -I../../../../damageext
> -I../../../../xfixes -I../../../../Xi -I../../../../mi
> -I../../../../miext/shadow -I../../../../miext/damage -I../../../../render
> -I../../../../randr -I../../../../fb -O2 -pipe -mieee -MT bsd_axp.lo -MD -MP
> -MF .deps/bsd_axp.Tpo -c bsd_axp.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/bsd_axp.o
>
>
> After fixing that, i got:
>
> misym.c:127: warning: 'miPointerAbsoluteCursor' is deprecated (declared at
> ../../../mi/mipointer.h:126)xf86sym.c:702: error: 'outw' undeclared here
> (not in a function)
> xf86sym.c:703: error: 'outb' undeclared here (not in a function)
> xf86sym.c:704: error: 'outl' undeclared here (not in a function)
> xf86sym.c:705: error: 'inb' undeclared here (not in a function)
> xf86sym.c:706: error: 'inw' undeclared here (not in a function)
> xf86sym.c:707: error: 'inl' undeclared here (not in a function)
>
> misym.c:128: warning: 'miPointerCurrentScreen' is deprecated (declared at
> ../../../mi/mipointer.h:131)gmake[4]: *** [xf86sym.o] Error 1
>
> misym.c:130: warning: 'miPointerWarpCursor' is deprecated (declared at
> ../../../mi/mipointer.h:111)
> gmake[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
> mv -f .deps/misym.Tpo .deps/misym.Po
> mv -f .deps/loadmod.Tpo .deps/loadmod.Po
> gmake[4]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw/xfree86/loader'
> gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw/xfree86'
> gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2
> gmake[2]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw/xfree86'
> gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> gmake[1]: Leaving directory
> `/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw'
> gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> *** Error code 2
>
> Stop.
> make: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/x11/modular-xorg-server
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> make: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/x11/modular-xorg-server
>

What is more netbsd-alpha has a kernel security level 1 by default.
You need to recompile kernel with less security level too (-1 as I
remember) because Xorg can't run with higher levels.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Andrius V <vezhlys@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was able to build modular-xorg some time ago however on startx
> netbsd was crashing immediately. So Xorg was unusable  for me in the
> end. You need to add -lalpha in Makefile if you want to build Xorg at
> all. About these errors you probably need to look how those functions
> are defined. Also there were some diffs in the groups from some other
> person who managed to build and run it too
> (http://old.nabble.com/X.org-1.3.0-server-on-NetBSD-alpha-td13057190.html).
> It can be as reference point too.
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Robert Dörfler <rodo@zlug.org> wrote:
>> Am 20.09.2011 21:33, schrieb Manuel Bouyer:
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 09:52:11AM +0200, Robert Dörfler wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> i just installed NetBSD5.1 on my AlphaPC 164LX some days ago.When i was
>>>> starting X i realized that its not the usual xorg/xfree86.Its
>>>> XdecNetBSD. I'm just wondering why its included on the
>>>> iso-distribution.
>>>> Isnt there an usual xorg/xfree86 package around for alpha?
>>>
>>> By default the alpha port still uses the old XFree86 tree, but you
>>> should be able to rebuild from source with X11FLAVOUR=Xorg
>>> (I did use it when I still had a working alpha XP1000)
>>
>> Its been some while. If i try to build Xorg it stops compiling at
>> "/usr/pkgsrc/sysutils/libpciaccess" with:
>>
>> ERROR: This package is only available for these platforms: FreeBSD-*-i386
>> NetBSD-*-i386 OpenBSD-*-i386 FreeBSD-*-x86_64 NetBSD-*-x86_64
>> OpenBSD-*-x86_64 DragonFly-*-i386 DragonFly-*-x86_64 Linux-*-* SunOS-*-*
>> NetBSD-*-sparc64.
>> ERROR: This package has set PKG_FAIL_REASON:
>> ERROR: libpciaccess-0.11.0nb1 is not available for NetBSD-5.1_STABLE-alpha
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>> So, i tried to add NetBSD-*-alpha as platform in the Makefile and
>> libpciaccess will build with a few warnings knowing that this will
>> surely will crash later. So, i tried to build modular-xorg-server
>> which will end here:
>>
>> alpha_video.c:44:21: error: xf86Axp.h: No such file or directory
>> alpha_video.c:59: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__'
>> before 'bsdGetAXP'
>> libtool: compile:  cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../../include
>> -I../../../../hw/xfree86 -I../../../../hw/xfree86/include
>> -I../../../../hw/xfree86/common -I../../../../hw/xfree86/os-support
>> -I../../../../hw/xfree86/os-support/bus -I../../../../os
>> -I/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/.buildlink/include
>> -I/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/.buildlink/include/freetype2
>> -DUSESTDRES -DHAVE_XORG_CONFIG_H -DHAVE_DIX_CONFIG_H -Wall -Wpointer-arith
>> -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations
>> -Wnested-externs -fno-strict-aliasing -D_REENTRANT -D_BSD_SOURCE
>> -DHAS_FCHOWN -DHAS_STICKY_DIR_BIT
>> -I/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/.buildlink/include/pixman-1
>> -I../../../../Xext -I../../../../composite -I../../../../damageext
>> -I../../../../xfixes -I../../../../Xi -I../../../../mi
>> -I../../../../miext/shadow -I../../../../miext/damage -I../../../../render
>> -I../../../../randr -I../../../../fb -O2 -pipe -mieee -MT bsd_axp.lo -MD -MP
>> -MF .deps/bsd_axp.Tpo -c bsd_axp.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/bsd_axp.o
>>
>>
>> After fixing that, i got:
>>
>> misym.c:127: warning: 'miPointerAbsoluteCursor' is deprecated (declared at
>> ../../../mi/mipointer.h:126)xf86sym.c:702: error: 'outw' undeclared here
>> (not in a function)
>> xf86sym.c:703: error: 'outb' undeclared here (not in a function)
>> xf86sym.c:704: error: 'outl' undeclared here (not in a function)
>> xf86sym.c:705: error: 'inb' undeclared here (not in a function)
>> xf86sym.c:706: error: 'inw' undeclared here (not in a function)
>> xf86sym.c:707: error: 'inl' undeclared here (not in a function)
>>
>> misym.c:128: warning: 'miPointerCurrentScreen' is deprecated (declared at
>> ../../../mi/mipointer.h:131)gmake[4]: *** [xf86sym.o] Error 1
>>
>> misym.c:130: warning: 'miPointerWarpCursor' is deprecated (declared at
>> ../../../mi/mipointer.h:111)
>> gmake[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
>> mv -f .deps/misym.Tpo .deps/misym.Po
>> mv -f .deps/loadmod.Tpo .deps/loadmod.Po
>> gmake[4]: Leaving directory
>> `/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw/xfree86/loader'
>> gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> gmake[3]: Leaving directory
>> `/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw/xfree86'
>> gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2
>> gmake[2]: Leaving directory
>> `/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw/xfree86'
>> gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> gmake[1]: Leaving directory
>> `/usr/obj/pkg/x11/modular-xorg-server/work.lobos/xorg-server-1.6.5/hw'
>> gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> *** Error code 2
>>
>> Stop.
>> make: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/x11/modular-xorg-server
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>> Stop.
>> make: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/x11/modular-xorg-server
>>