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From: rlyle@nl.oracle.com (Rob Lyle Wizard of Ozje)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: ACCT ERRORS fd2log
Keywords: holidays sar cron acct
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Date: 11 Jan 93 14:20:19 GMT
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Anyone know why I get ACCT ERRORS plastered all over the console and in the
fd2log file when all that its complaining about is ...
***UPDATE /usr/lib/acct/holidays WITH NEW HOLIDAYS***
***UPDATE /usr/lib/acct/holidays WITH NEW HOLIDAYS***
Hmmm - thought I'd done that, TWICE. How do I make this go away? Otherwise,
all the accounting stuff runs sweetly. "statefile" contains COMPLETE.
Cheers,
--Rob.
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From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix
Subject: Re: where can i get the c-isam routines?
Message-ID: <1993Jan9.040143.1106@informix.com>
Date: 9 Jan 93 04:01:43 GMT
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In article <16B4FEC12.BP1@vm.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> BP1@vm.urz.uni-heidelberg.de writes:
>hello
>Where can i get the c-isam routines public domain?
>thanks so lot ernst
You can't -- C-ISAM is a commercial product, not public domain.
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From: Richard.Kooijman@dnpap.et.tudelft.nl (Richard Kooijman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Enlarging MS-Kermit's data space
Message-ID: <richard.726756238@dutepp6>
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:43:58 GMT
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Hi,
I have a rather large key definition file for Kermit. Alas, Kermit
just doesn't make it to the last 4 definitions.
So, I picked up the MS-Kermit distribution from watsun and
enlarged the key definition buffers. But again, alas, Kermit seems
to be filled to the last byte. It is compiled in small memory model
and compiling it in large memory model would solve the problem, but
the TCP software is relying on the small mm.
Has anybody succeeded it doing this? It appears to me that there must
be other people with large key definitions.
Any help greatly appreciated!
Richard.
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From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: PPI EPROMS (Re: PPI repair charges)
Message-ID: <1993Jan9.043215.1650@informix.com>
Date: 9 Jan 93 04:32:15 GMT
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In article <6629.2b4c0c44@hayes.com> tnixon@hayes.com writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.061457.15927@informix.com>, aland@informix.com
>(Colonel Panic) writes:
>
>> In the case of my modem, they sent me a wholly different one, so the
>> repair must not have been trivial...
>
>Actually, there's no correlation between getting back a different
>modem and the difficulty of repairing yours. ...
Agreed, absolutely.
I failed to mention that the support tech said that he'd personally
be testing mine and they'd replace it only if they verified the problem.
Between the screening conversation and this fact, he seemed utterly
convinced that the problem was pilot error on my part. (This wasn't as
esoteric problem: the modem just plain quit dialing out.)
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From: gunter@mbfys.kun.nl (Gunter Windau)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.pascal
Subject: Re: pointers to arrays?!?
Message-ID: <C0p11p.9Et@sci.kun.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:17:48 GMT
References: <1993Jan11.205412.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>
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glgam@cc.newcastle.edu.au (GLGAM) writes:
>To access a particular element in an array I would use..
>ArrayVar[Index] := etc..
>Suppose I had setup a pointer to an array on the heap... How do I access the
>individual elements ?
>ie.
>Type
> ArrayType = Array[1..Max] of Char;
>Var
> ArrayVar : ^ArrayType;
> Index : Word;
>[..]
>ArrayVar[Index]^ := etc..????
How about:
ArrayVar^[Index] := ...
>Doesn't work.. I know why.. I just can't for the life of me figure
>out what _does_ work..
>Regards,
>Scott.
>
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Dept. Medical Physics & Biophysics voice: +31 80 617139
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From: schmitt@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (M.J.M.Schmitt.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Soundmaster soundcard
Keywords: covox, soundmaster II
Message-ID: <3571@accucx.cc.ruu.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:20:57 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer Centre Utrecht
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Hello Netters,
Is there anyone on the net who knows something about the covox soundmaster II
card. It's supposed to be something like the SB pro version one. It's adlib,
SB, gameblaster compatible. It comes with stereo, midi (UART only), headphone and mike.
Does anybody know if this card is any good voor sound with games and playing wavsounds in windows? No professional midi use is intended. Please reply fast for Iam about to by it for a very low price....
Thanks in advance, Michel
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From: ramesh@informix.com (Nagar Ramesh)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix
Subject: Re: Recovery
Message-ID: <1993Jan10.064144.198@informix.com>
Date: 10 Jan 93 06:41:44 GMT
References: <1inm5vINN3gm@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
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In article <1inm5vINN3gm@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> unifi!goofy.unifi.com!bharat@uunet.UU.NET (Bharat Shah) writes:
>Welcome to the world of STUCK FAST RECOVERY ...
>I have faced this problem on more than one occassion and I have been asked to
>wait for version 5.0 where HIGHT_WATER settings can solve this problem.
>
>Bharat.
hi bharat,
i don't know the version of the engine you have, but if you have 4.10
you can edit the tbconfig file to include the two long transaction water
marks - LTXHWM and LTXEHWM which are commonly set to 75 and 80
respectively (percentage values).
LTXHWM is the Long Transactio High Water Mark - set to 75% which tells
online to roll transactions back when the logs are 75% full.
LTEXHWM is the Long Transaction Exclusive High Water Mark - set to a
value > LTXHWM, usually 80% , which when reached, gives
"exclusive" access of the logical logs to the transaction
currently being rolled back.
just a brief explanation but i hope it helps.
regards,
ramesh.
>
>========================================================================
>Bharat Shah Voice: (508)-663-7570
>Unifi Communications Corp. Fax: (508)-663-7543
>4 Federal St, Billerica, Mass 01821, USA uunet!bharat@unifi.com
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From: hoppie@kub.nl (Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Win4Wkgrps threatens OS/2.....
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.134121.16057@kub.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:41:21 GMT
References: <1993Jan11.100707.20600@actrix.gen.nz>
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In article <1993Jan11.100707.20600@actrix.gen.nz>, Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
|> Briefly, Microsoft says that its vision for the future is to make
|> Windows for Workgroups the basic operating system that would
|> allow any developer's application to work with just about any
|> other application through the application programming interfaces
|> (APIs) contained in WFW.
Nice. And of course, tomorrow all existing DOS and Windows apps will be re-written
for the use of this API and available for free, will they?
This Is Nothing New! What about DDE and OLE? If apps are written to understand
these protocols, they can chat! So what? Just include DDE/OLE in OS/2 and off
we go.
Or am I missing something important here?
Jeroen
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Infolab, Tilburg University, The Netherlands | start connecting people!
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Conversion of BASIC code to "C"
Message-ID: <hjv.726759816@groucho.phil.ruu.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:43:36 GMT
References: <1993Jan8.183821.20711@adobe.com> <1993Jan10.131651.1@csbina.csubak.edu>
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camp5@csbina.csubak.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.183821.20711@adobe.com>, (Scott Sivi) writes:
>> Does there exist a method or application by which BASIC files can be
>> converted
>> to "C".
>You probably couldn't even do it by hand unless the BASIC program was
>completely flowed and never used a GOTO! The way BASIC programmers spaghetti-
>code programs, I doubt it's possible. (I'm assuming you won't use goto in C.
>I wouldn't.)
Ignoring the fact that the above is a rather simplified outlook on day-to-day
practice, it isn't true either. There _do_ exist programs that translate
Basic to C -- I know of at least one such package; it's a program for
translating GFA Basic (Atari ST and PC platforms) to C. I've never used it
and assume that the output of such a program will be a bit crude -- and
probably the input source will have to meet some tight constraints as well,
but in principle it _can_ be done.
And on the spaghetti statement: I agree that there are lots of hobby-basic-
programmers who write terrible code, but probably the same holds for every
language. The only difference being the fact that more hobby-programmers
use basic than C, Lisp or SmallTalk... :) However, I started with Basic
myself (quite some time ago, fortunately :) and have always tried to write
as structured and clear as possible (which isn't too hard with modern basics).
No GOTO's, no GOSUB's, as little global vars as possible, etc. and several
of these programs _were_ hand-converted to C later on -- without too much
trouble and without ending up with horrible Basic-like C. And I know quite
some programmers who write serious applications (commercial apps) in Basic.
And no spaghetti-code... The days of the "GOTO 1250" are long ago...
But hey, I don't want to start another language-war... :) And besides, I
don't mean to _defend_ Basic (why do you think I switched to C...?). I
just wanted to say that IMO it's not _that_ difficult to translate Basic to
C, provided the Basic-source was indeed written a bit 'decent' (y'all know
what I mean by _that_ :).
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From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,comp.sources.bugs
Subject: nestor patch #05 (low priority) Part 01/01
Summary: nestor 1.0PL5 released via anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.ruu.nl
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.141512.18675@cs.ruu.nl>
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X-Comp-Archives-Magic-Cookie: ftp.cs.ruu.nl:/pub/UNIX/nestor.tar.Z
Here is a SHARred low-priority patch for the ``nestor'' program. It
fixes some bugs and includes a first attempt to support "nntpxfer".
If you are currently using nestor 1.0PL4 please apply this patch to
upgrade to 1.0PL5. If you're unfamiliar with nestor or running a
pre-1.0PL4 version of nestor, I encourage you to pickup a complete new
release from our archive -- see details below.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*************************** INTRODUCTION *****************************
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This is ``nestor'', a program to summarize the copious logging
information from the NNTP Usenet News transport agent (for the curious:
"Nestor" is short for "NEws STatistics ORganizer"). ``nestor'' is
distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
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*************************** HOW TO GET *****************************
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We, Computer Science department, Utrecht University, are running an
anonymous FTP server on one of our systems. In addition to the FTP
service we're also running a mail server, for those of you without
direct Internet access.
--> How to get 'nestor' via anonymous FTP:
Site: ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17]
Login: "anonymous" or "ftp"
Password: your own email address (you@your_domain)
file:
/pub/UNIX/nestor.tar.Z
--> How to get 'nestor' via e-mail from our mail-server:
NOTE: In the following I have assumed that your mail address is
"fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu"; of course you must substitute
your own address for this.
| Please use a VALID DOMAIN ADDRESS.
| Use 'hip!hop!user' if you must.
| Never use an address which has both '!' and '@' in it.
| Bitnetters use user@host.bitnet
Send the following message to
mail-server@cs.ruu.nl
or the old-fashioned path alternative
uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!ruuinf!mail-server
begin
path fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu (SUBSTITUTE _YOUR_ ADDRESS)
send UNIX/nestor.tar.Z
end
The path command can be deleted if we receive a valid from address in your
message. If this is the first time you use our mail server, we suggest you
first issue the request:
send HELP
A complete "ls-lR" listing of the archive is kept in the top-level
directory, it will be updated every night. To get it, issue the command:
send ls-lR.Z
That's all for now. If you encounter problems using the FTP service
and/or the mail-server, feel free to drop me a line (by e-mail, please).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
******************** HOW TO APPLY THIS PATCH *********************
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1. Go to where-ever you keep the nestor sources
2. Save this message into a file
3. Find the '===CUT===HERE===' line and follow the instructions in the
shell-archive (shar) file direct below it; then return here.
4. Patch nestor using the command: patch < Patch05
5. Rebuild nestor by doing a: make
6. Reinstall nestor by doing a: make install
=================================CUT===HERE===================================
#! /bin/sh
# This is a shell archive. Remove anything before this line, then unpack
# it by saving it into a file and typing "sh file". To overwrite existing
# files, type "sh file -c". You can also feed this as standard input via
# unshar, or by typing "sh <file", e.g.. If this archive is complete, you
# will see the following message at the end:
# "End of shell archive."
# Contents: Patch05
# Wrapped by edwin@cs.ruu.nl on Mon Jan 11 11:26:25 1993
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb ; export PATH
if test -f 'Patch05' -a "${1}" != "-c" ; then
echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \"'Patch05'\"
else
echo shar: Extracting \"'Patch05'\" \(16523 characters\)
sed "s/^X//" >'Patch05' <<'END_OF_FILE'
XIndex: patchlevel.h
X*** ../1.0PL4/patchlevel.h Sat Jan 4 21:37:53 1992
X--- patchlevel.h Fri Jan 8 20:04:04 1993
X***************
X*** 16,23 ****
X * 11-Jun-91 EHK Safer mem alloc; real-logging period 1.0 PL2
X * 08-Jul-91 EHK Nicer report; longer hostnames allowed 1.0 PL3
X * 04-Jan-92 EHK Added nntpxfer; some fixes/enhancements 1.0 PL4
X *
X *---------------------------------------------------------------------------
X */
X
X! #define PATCHLEVEL 4
X--- 16,24 ----
X * 11-Jun-91 EHK Safer mem alloc; real-logging period 1.0 PL2
X * 08-Jul-91 EHK Nicer report; longer hostnames allowed 1.0 PL3
X * 04-Jan-92 EHK Added nntpxfer; some fixes/enhancements 1.0 PL4
X+ * 08-Jan-93 EHK added totals; some fixes as well 1.0 PL5
X *
X *---------------------------------------------------------------------------
X */
X
X! #define PATCHLEVEL "5"
XIndex: Changes
X*** ../1.0PL4/Changes Sun Jan 5 22:12:10 1992
X--- Changes Sat Jan 9 15:04:27 1993
X***************
X*** 164,166 ****
X--- 164,209 ----
X used at all) caused a "header-only" report to be printed. Fixed
X this by first checking if there's any work to do at all.
X
X+ Nestor -- 1.0 PL5
X+ =================
X+ Patch #5 was posted in "news.software.nntp" and "comp.sources.bugs" on
X+ January 11, 1993
X+
X+ Topic: if all offered articles were rejected, the connection was not shown
X+ From: Ian Dickinson <vato@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
X+ Added: Patch #5 [report.c]
X+
X+ Topic: The report now contains totals for each section
X+ From: Ian Dickinson <vato@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
X+ Added: Patch #5 [report.c]
X+
X+ Ian really wanted the totals, so he sent me the code to handle
X+ this -- once again, thanks Ian.
X+
X+ Topic: "msgid" syslog messages on slow feeds confuse nestor
X+ From: Ian Dickinson <vato@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
X+ Added: Patch #5 [scan.c]
X+
X+ Topic: "inews" pathnames slip in occasionally; nestor thinks it's a hostname
X+ From: EHK
X+ Added: Patch #5 [scan.c]
X+
X+ Topic: Add extra test to prevent useless work if no statistics found at all
X+ From: EHK
X+ Added: Patch #5 [nestor.c report.c]
X+
X+ To be honest with you... "useless work" in the topic line above
X+ may be read as "core dump" on some architectures :-)
X+
X+ Topic: 'make spotless' should also throw away the local "defs.h" file
X+ From: EHK
X+ Added: Patch #5 [Makefile]
X+
X+ Topic: text following #endif violates ANSI standard
X+ From: EHK
X+ Added: Patch #5 [support.c]
X+
X+ Topic: changed PATCHLEVEL into a string, to simplify users making local changes
X+ From: EHK [on request by various people]
X+ Added: Patch #5 [patchlevel.h nestor.c]
X+
XIndex: Makefile
X*** ../1.0PL4/Makefile Mon Jul 8 16:38:41 1991
X--- Makefile Fri Jan 8 19:43:07 1993
X***************
X*** 37,43 ****
X rm -f nestor $(OBJFILES) core tags
X
X spotless : clean
X! rm -f nestor.arc nestor.shar nestor.tar nestor.tar.Z
X
X draft :
X a2ps -nr $(SRCFILES) | laser -T
X--- 37,43 ----
X rm -f nestor $(OBJFILES) core tags
X
X spotless : clean
X! rm -f nestor.arc nestor.shar nestor.tar nestor.tar.Z defs.h
X
X draft :
X a2ps -nr $(SRCFILES) | laser -T
XIndex: README
X*** ../1.0PL4/README Fri Jan 3 23:58:33 1992
X--- README Tue Aug 18 22:41:28 1992
X***************
X*** 120,126 ****
X mail-server archive, please let me know so I can inform you of future
X enhancements (often called 'bug fixes').
X The latest version of nestor is always available by anonymous FTP from
X! "archive.cs.ruu.nl" [131.211.80.5]
X
X
X NOTE THAT
X--- 120,126 ----
X mail-server archive, please let me know so I can inform you of future
X enhancements (often called 'bug fixes').
X The latest version of nestor is always available by anonymous FTP from
X! "ftp.cs.ruu.nl" [131.211.80.17]
X
X
X NOTE THAT
XIndex: nestor.1
X*** ../1.0PL4/nestor.1 Sat Jan 4 21:34:46 1992
X--- nestor.1 Mon Jan 6 09:47:26 1992
X***************
X*** 1,4 ****
X! .TH NESTOR 1L "RUU-CS Version 1.0PL3"
X .SH NAME
X nestor \- NEws STatistics ORganizer
X .SH SYNOPSIS
X--- 1,4 ----
X! .TH NESTOR 1L "RUU-CS Version 1.0PL5"
X .SH NAME
X nestor \- NEws STatistics ORganizer
X .SH SYNOPSIS
XIndex: nestor.c
X*** ../1.0PL4/nestor.c Fri Jan 3 22:30:28 1992
X--- nestor.c Fri Jan 8 21:05:43 1993
X***************
X*** 23,29 ****
X *---------------------------------------------------------------------------
X */
X
X! static char *Version = "1.0 PL%d\n";
X
X /*+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++*/
X
X--- 23,29 ----
X *---------------------------------------------------------------------------
X */
X
X! static char *Version = "1.0PL%s\n";
X
X /*+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++*/
X
X***************
X*** 173,178 ****
X--- 173,185 ----
X SortNntps(nntps);
X
X /* now its time to report to the user what we've found */
X+
X+ if ( num_nntp_hosts == 0 ) /* ... if anything */
X+ {
X+ printf("\nNo NNTP news statistics found in input file: %s\n\n",
X+ logfile);
X+ exit(0);
X+ }
X
X if ( start_date )
X {
XIndex: report.c
X*** ../1.0PL4/report.c Sat Jan 4 21:23:23 1992
X--- report.c Fri Jan 8 20:55:53 1993
X***************
X*** 3,8 ****
X--- 3,9 ----
X * report.c 1.3 02-Apr-91 EHK Now nice reports
X * report.c 1.4 03-Jan-92 EHK NNTPXFER report added
X * report.c 1.4b 04-Jan-92 EHK Assertions added (any?)
X+ * report.c 1.5 08-Jan-93 EHK TOTALS added (by Vato)
X */
X
X #include "nestor.h"
X***************
X*** 19,29 ****
X if ( ptr->which ) \
X break; \
X else \
X! if ( ++ptr == nntps + num_nntp_hosts ) \
X return
X
X
X-
X /*
X *---------------------------------------------------------------------------
X * Report_nntpd - generate a nice report on incoming traffic
X--- 20,29 ----
X if ( ptr->which ) \
X break; \
X else \
X! if ( ++ptr >= nntps + num_nntp_hosts ) \
X return
X
X
X /*
X *---------------------------------------------------------------------------
X * Report_nntpd - generate a nice report on incoming traffic
X***************
X*** 33,41 ****
X--- 33,44 ----
X Report_nntpd()
X {
X register nntp_t *np;
X+ nntp_t tot;
X
X ANYTHING_AT_ALL(np,recv_a_acc); /* any accepted? */
X
X+ bzero((char *) &tot, sizeof(nntp_t));
X+
X printf("\n\n\
X *** Incoming Articles Via NntpDaemon ***\
X \n\n");
X***************
X*** 46,53 ****
X
X for ( np = nntps ; np < nntps + num_nntp_hosts ; np++ )
X {
X! if ( np->recv_a_acc ) /* accept anything btw? */
X! {
X printf("%-24.24s %8d %7d %7d %9s %9s %9s\n",
X np->nntp_host,
X np->recv_a_acc,
X--- 49,56 ----
X
X for ( np = nntps ; np < nntps + num_nntp_hosts ; np++ )
X {
X! if ( np->recv_a_acc || np->recv_a_rej || np->recv_a_fai )
X! { /* accept anything btw? */
X printf("%-24.24s %8d %7d %7d %9s %9s %9s\n",
X np->nntp_host,
X np->recv_a_acc,
X***************
X*** 56,64 ****
X--- 59,82 ----
X HHMMSS(np->recv_u_cpu),
X HHMMSS(np->recv_s_cpu),
X HHMMSS(np->recv_r_cpu));
X+
X+ tot.recv_a_acc += np->recv_a_acc;
X+ tot.recv_a_rej += np->recv_a_rej;
X+ tot.recv_a_fai += np->recv_a_fai;
X+ tot.recv_u_cpu += np->recv_u_cpu;
X+ tot.recv_s_cpu += np->recv_s_cpu;
X+ tot.recv_r_cpu += np->recv_r_cpu;
X }
X }
X
X+ printf("%-24.24s %8d %7d %7d %9s %9s %9s\n",
X+ "TOTAL",
X+ tot.recv_a_acc,
X+ tot.recv_a_rej,
X+ tot.recv_a_fai,
X+ HHMMSS(tot.recv_u_cpu),
X+ HHMMSS(tot.recv_s_cpu),
X+ HHMMSS(tot.recv_r_cpu));
X }
X
X /*
X***************
X*** 70,78 ****
X--- 88,99 ----
X Report_nntpxmit()
X {
X register nntp_t *np;
X+ nntp_t tot;
X
X ANYTHING_AT_ALL(np,xmit_a_off); /* any XMIT offered? */
X
X+ bzero((char *) &tot, sizeof(nntp_t));
X+
X printf("\n\n\
X *** Outgoing Articles Via NntpXmit ***\
X \n\n");
X***************
X*** 94,101 ****
X--- 115,140 ----
X HHMMSS(np->xmit_u_cpu),
X HHMMSS(np->xmit_s_cpu),
X HHMMSS(np->xmit_r_cpu));
X+
X+ tot.xmit_a_off += np->xmit_a_off;
X+ tot.xmit_a_acc += np->xmit_a_acc;
X+ tot.xmit_a_rej += np->xmit_a_rej;
X+ tot.xmit_a_fai += np->xmit_a_fai;
X+ tot.xmit_u_cpu += np->xmit_u_cpu;
X+ tot.xmit_s_cpu += np->xmit_s_cpu;
X+ tot.xmit_r_cpu += np->xmit_r_cpu;
X }
X }
X+
X+ printf("%-23.23s %6d %6d %6d %4d %9s %9s %9s\n",
X+ "TOTAL",
X+ tot.xmit_a_off,
X+ tot.xmit_a_acc,
X+ tot.xmit_a_rej,
X+ tot.xmit_a_fai,
X+ HHMMSS(tot.xmit_u_cpu),
X+ HHMMSS(tot.xmit_s_cpu),
X+ HHMMSS(tot.xmit_r_cpu));
X }
X
X /*
X***************
X*** 107,115 ****
X--- 146,157 ----
X Report_nntpxfer()
X {
X register nntp_t *np;
X+ nntp_t tot;
X
X ANYTHING_AT_ALL(np,xfer_a_off); /* any XFER offered? */
X
X+ bzero((char *) &tot, sizeof(nntp_t));
X+
X printf("\n\n\
X *** Outgoing Articles Via NntpXfer ***\
X \n\n");
X***************
X*** 125,132 ****
X--- 167,182 ----
X np->nntp_host,
X np->xfer_a_off,
X np->xfer_a_acc);
X+
X+ tot.xfer_a_off += np->xfer_a_off;
X+ tot.xfer_a_acc += np->xfer_a_acc;
X }
X }
X+
X+ printf("%-23.23s %6d %6d\n",
X+ "TOTAL",
X+ tot.xfer_a_off,
X+ tot.xfer_a_acc);
X }
X
X /*
X***************
X*** 138,144 ****
X--- 188,197 ----
X Report_network()
X {
X register nntp_t *np;
X+ nntp_t tot;
X
X+ bzero((char *) &tot, sizeof(nntp_t));
X+
X printf("\n\n\
X *** Overall Network Connections Report ***\
X \n\n");
X***************
X*** 160,166 ****
X--- 213,236 ----
X np->xmit_n_connect,
X np->xmit_n_hostfail, np->xmit_n_netfail,
X np->recv_n_connect && !np->recv_a_acc ? '*' : ' ');
X+
X+ tot.recv_n_connect += np->recv_n_connect;
X+ tot.recv_n_hostfail += np->recv_n_hostfail;
X+ tot.recv_n_netfail += np->recv_n_netfail;
X+ tot.xmit_n_connect += np->xmit_n_connect;
X+ tot.xmit_n_hostfail += np->xmit_n_hostfail;
X+ tot.xmit_n_netfail += np->xmit_n_netfail;
X }
X+
X+ printf("%-23.23s %7d %9d %9d %7d %9d %8d %c\n",
X+ "TOTAL",
X+ tot.recv_n_connect,
X+ tot.recv_n_hostfail,
X+ tot.recv_n_netfail,
X+ tot.xmit_n_connect,
X+ tot.xmit_n_hostfail,
X+ tot.xmit_n_netfail,
X+ ' ');
X }
X
X /*
X***************
X*** 172,178 ****
X--- 242,251 ----
X Report_remote()
X {
X register nntp_t *np;
X+ nntp_t tot;
X
X+ bzero((char *) &tot, sizeof(nntp_t));
X+
X printf("\n\n\
X *** Remote Clients Usage Report ***\
X \n\n");
X***************
X*** 188,199 ****
X for ( np = nntps ; np < nntps + num_nntp_hosts ; np++ )
X {
X if ( np->recv_rr_grp || np->recv_rr_art ||
X! np->recv_p_acc || np->recv_p_rej || np->recv_p_fai )
X printf("%-23.23s %8d %8d %10d %10d %10d\n",
X np->nntp_host,
X np->recv_rr_grp, np->recv_rr_art,
X np->recv_p_acc, np->recv_p_rej, np->recv_p_fai);
X }
X }
X
X /*
X--- 261,287 ----
X for ( np = nntps ; np < nntps + num_nntp_hosts ; np++ )
X {
X if ( np->recv_rr_grp || np->recv_rr_art ||
X! np->recv_p_acc || np->recv_p_rej || np->recv_p_fai ) {
X printf("%-23.23s %8d %8d %10d %10d %10d\n",
X np->nntp_host,
X np->recv_rr_grp, np->recv_rr_art,
X np->recv_p_acc, np->recv_p_rej, np->recv_p_fai);
X+
X+ tot.recv_rr_grp += np->recv_rr_grp;
X+ tot.recv_rr_art += np->recv_rr_art;
X+ tot.recv_p_acc += np->recv_p_acc;
X+ tot.recv_p_rej += np->recv_p_rej;
X+ tot.recv_p_fai += np->recv_p_fai;
X+ }
X }
X+
X+ printf("%-23.23s %8d %8d %10d %10d %10d\n",
X+ "TOTAL",
X+ tot.recv_rr_grp,
X+ tot.recv_rr_art,
X+ tot.recv_p_acc,
X+ tot.recv_p_rej,
X+ tot.recv_p_fai);
X }
X
X /*
X***************
X*** 206,217 ****
X Report_smart()
X {
X register nntp_t *np;
X! int total_conn,
X! total_fail;
X! float percent;
X! char *class,
X! *not_avail = "n/a";
X
X printf("\n\n\
X *** Overall Performance Averages ***\
X \n\n");
X--- 294,303 ----
X Report_smart()
X {
X register nntp_t *np;
X! nntp_t tot;
X
X+ bzero((char *) &tot, sizeof(nntp_t));
X+
X printf("\n\n\
X *** Overall Performance Averages ***\
X \n\n");
X***************
X*** 226,273 ****
X
X for ( np = nntps ; np < nntps + num_nntp_hosts ; np++ )
X {
X! total_conn = np->recv_n_connect + np->xmit_n_connect;
X! total_fail = np->recv_n_netfail + np->xmit_n_netfail;
X
X! if ( total_conn == 0 )
X! percent = -1; /* not available */
X! else
X! if ( total_fail == 0 ) /* it's pretty good */
X percent = 0;
X! else
X! percent = ((float) total_fail /
X! ((float) total_conn + (float) total_fail)) * 100;
X
X! if ( percent > 25 )
X! class = "bad";
X else
X! if ( percent > 10 )
X! class = "moderate";
X else
X! if ( percent > 3 )
X! class = "good";
X else
X! if ( percent >= 0 )
X! class = "excellent";
X! else
X! class = not_avail;
X
X! printf("%-23.23s ", np->nntp_host);
X! if ( np->recv_a_acc )
X! printf("%10.2f", np->recv_a_acc / np->recv_r_cpu);
X! else
X! printf("%10s", not_avail);
X
X! if ( np->xmit_a_acc )
X! printf("%15.2f", np->xmit_a_acc / np->xmit_r_cpu);
X! else
X! printf("%15s", not_avail);
X
X! if ( percent < 0 )
X! printf("%13s", not_avail);
X! else
X! printf("%12.2f%%", percent);
X
X! printf("%16s\n", class);
X! }
X }
X--- 312,384 ----
X
X for ( np = nntps ; np < nntps + num_nntp_hosts ; np++ )
X {
X! Report_smart_line(np);
X
X! tot.recv_n_connect += np->recv_n_connect;
X! tot.recv_n_netfail += np->recv_n_netfail;
X! tot.recv_a_acc += np->recv_a_acc;
X! tot.recv_r_cpu += np->recv_r_cpu;
X! tot.xmit_n_connect += np->xmit_n_connect;
X! tot.xmit_n_connect += np->xmit_n_connect;
X! tot.xmit_a_acc += np->xmit_a_acc;
X! tot.xmit_r_cpu += np->xmit_r_cpu;
X! }
X!
X! strcpy(tot.nntp_host, "TOTAL");
X! Report_smart_line(&tot);
X! }
X!
X! int
X! Report_smart_line(tp)
X! register nntp_t *tp;
X! {
X! int total_conn,
X! total_fail;
X! float percent;
X! char *class,
X! *not_avail = "n/a";
X!
X! total_conn = tp->recv_n_connect + tp->xmit_n_connect;
X! total_fail = tp->recv_n_netfail + tp->xmit_n_netfail;
X!
X! if ( total_conn == 0 )
X! percent = -1; /* not available */
X! else
X! if ( total_fail == 0 ) /* it's pretty good */
X percent = 0;
X! else
X! percent = ((float) total_fail /
X! ((float) total_conn + (float) total_fail)) * 100;
X
X! if ( percent > 25 )
X! class = "bad";
X! else
X! if ( percent > 10 )
X! class = "moderate";
X else
X! if ( percent > 3 )
X! class = "good";
X else
X! if ( percent >= 0 )
X! class = "excellent";
X else
X! class = not_avail;
X
X! printf("%-23.23s ", tp->nntp_host);
X! if ( tp->recv_a_acc )
X! printf("%10.2f", tp->recv_a_acc / tp->recv_r_cpu);
X! else
X! printf("%10s", not_avail);
X
X! if ( tp->xmit_a_acc )
X! printf("%15.2f", tp->xmit_a_acc / tp->xmit_r_cpu);
X! else
X! printf("%15s", not_avail);
X
X! if ( percent < 0 )
X! printf("%13s", not_avail);
X! else
X! printf("%12.2f%%", percent);
X
X! printf("%16s\n", class);
X }
XIndex: scan.c
X*** ../1.0PL4/scan.c Sun Jan 5 22:08:17 1992
X--- scan.c Fri Jan 8 19:53:46 1993
X***************
X*** 4,9 ****
X--- 4,11 ----
X * scan.c 1.02 03-Jun-91 EHK mod. algorithm to filter garbage better
X * scan.c 1.03 10-Jun-91 EHK memory faults; increase some buffers
X * scan.c 1.03 03-Jan-92 EHK fixed a sanity check; added KEY_NEWNEWS
X+ * scan.c 1.04 15-Apr-92 vato :-( msgid patches syslog entry
X+ * scan.c 1.05 08-Jan-92 EHK :-( and inews pathname is not a host
X */
X
X #include "nestor.h"
X***************
X*** 52,58 ****
X sscanf(cp, "%s %s", hostname, keyword); /* -3- */
X cp += strlen(hostname) + strlen(keyword) + 2;
X
X! if ( (key_lookup_result = FindKey(keyword)) == -1 ) /* -4- */
X {
X if ( verbose )
X fprintf(stderr, "Huh?!?!? --> %s", line);
X--- 54,68 ----
X sscanf(cp, "%s %s", hostname, keyword); /* -3- */
X cp += strlen(hostname) + strlen(keyword) + 2;
X
X! /* Before we do the usual keyword lookup, we look sharp for certain
X! * garbage that is known to slip into occasionally...
X! * `msgid' seems to confuse nestor; so does the `inews' pathname
X! * every now and then. Fix to reject hostnames that match "msgid:"
X! * or contain '/'-es. Logfiles really are a mess sometimes...
X! */
X! if ( !strcmp(hostname, "msgid:") ||
X! index(hostname, '/') ||
X! (key_lookup_result = FindKey(keyword)) == -1 ) /* -4- */
X {
X if ( verbose )
X fprintf(stderr, "Huh?!?!? --> %s", line);
XIndex: support.c
X*** ../1.0PL4/support.c Fri Jan 3 22:56:03 1992
X--- support.c Sat Jan 9 14:50:57 1993
X***************
X*** 163,166 ****
X
X return( NIL_CHAR );
X }
X! #endif HAVE_STRSTR
X--- 163,166 ----
X
X return( NIL_CHAR );
X }
X! #endif /* HAVE_STRSTR */
END_OF_FILE
if test 16523 -ne `wc -c <'Patch05'`; then
echo shar: \"'Patch05'\" unpacked with wrong size!
fi
# end of 'Patch05'
fi
echo shar: End of shell archive.
exit 0
--
Edwin H. Kremer, systems- and network manager. [NIC-Whois handle: EHK3]
Department of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
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From: gel@sys.uea.ac.uk (Gareth Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Small emacs clone?
Summary: Seeking a small emacs clone for Ultrix
Keywords: small emacs version
Message-ID: <gel.726781713@zen.sys.uea.ac.uk>
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:48:33 GMT
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Dear Ultrixers,
Does anyone know of a simple emacs clone available by ftp for ultrix 4.2a?
I lack disk space to install a full emacs distribution and just need a
simple emacs editor (akin to MicroEmacs for MS-DOS). vi is becoming a bit
of a chore for program development!!
Sorry if this is a FAQ. If it's posted in the wrong place then please let
me know so that I can repost.
Could you email messages to me directly rather than following up.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Gareth Lee.
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From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix
Subject: Re: CONSTRUCT/END CONSTRUCT within INPUT statement
Keywords: CONSTRUCT
Message-ID: <1993Jan9.035454.946@informix.com>
Date: 9 Jan 93 03:54:54 GMT
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In article <jean.726402411@aim1> jean@aim1.aztec.co.za (Jean Ramsay) writes:
>According to the TOOLREL_4.1 document for i4GL an END CONSTRUCT statement
>is now required when using CONSTRUCT within an INPUT statement when using
>version 4.1 of i4gl. (See lines 377,392)
I *think* that END CONSTRUCT is only required when you use ON KEY, BEFORE
FIELD, or AFTER FIELD between the CONSTRUCT and the END INPUT. (Because:
the AFTER/BEFORE FIELD or ON KEY would be assumed to apply to the CONSTRUCT,
not the INPUT).
>A program containing this code, which works using release i4gl 4.0,
>fails to execute the INPUT BY NAME ... WITHOUT DEFAULTS correctly (it
>appears to ignore the WITHOUT DEFAULTS, blanking out all fields) when run
>without the END CONSTRUCT statement on i4gl 4.1.
Whoa. Is this INPUT, or INPUT ARRAY? If INPUT ARRAY, this is probably Bug
#10522 et al, and is unrelated to the CONSTRUCT syntax issue. If you are
using 4.10.UC1 or .UD1, you will definitely see this bug. Otherwise, check
the release/ directory for bugfixes included in the port.
>However it gives a generic
>syntax error at compile time when the END CONSTRUCT is added.
This shouldn't happen. Are you sure you are compiling with the 4.1 compiler?
>Has anybody had this problem with i4gl 4.1? I am aware of the supposed
>restriction disallowing a CONSTRUCT within an INPUT statement, but the
>program did not require the CONSTRUCT to be within another function
>under version 4.0. Any help would be appreciated.
>--
>Jean Ramsay jean%aim1.aztec.co.za@ucthpx.uct.ac.za
>Aztec Information Management, Cape Town, South Africa
The only danger is the ambiguity I discussed above. Otherwise, pre-4.1 code
is forward-compatible without changes.
--
Alan Denney aland@informix.com {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!aland
"For they looked in the future, and what did they see
They saw an iron road running from the sea to the sea." -- Gordon Lightfoot
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From: kjb@cs.vu.nl (Kees J. Bot)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Script to transform Andy's manual pages
Message-ID: <C0p1wt.29L@cs.vu.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:36:28 GMT
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Recently Andy released the [nt]roff source of the manual pages of the
Minix commands. Great.
I only have four problems with these pages,
- They need a separate macro set to make them look nice in The Book,
but I want man(7) style pages.
- Not all the macros were present. (.HS, .MX and other simple ones.)
- My nroff (cawf) choked on them. :-(
- The calendar page has 'december 25' in column 1, put \& before it.
So I wrote a simple script this weekend to transform one of Andy's pages
to the man(7) form, I think it gets it 99% right. There is also a
makewhatis script that can produce the whatis(5) database. Maybe
someone has a use for it.
Take a coffee break if you run these scripts, my 486 needs one full
minute to run ast2man on all the pages, makewhatis needs another minute.
16-bit Minix needs 4+2 minutes, there is nothing like a trashing cache.
Getting rid of the junk in cat[2-7] is my next problem, alas these 130
pages are to useful to simply rm.
--
Kees J. Bot (kjb@cs.vu.nl)
Systems Programmer, Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
_._. .._ _ ._ ._.. ___ _. __. _ .... . _.. ___ _ _ . _.. ._.. .. _. .
echo x - ast2man.sh
sed '/^X/s///' > ast2man.sh << '/'
X#!/bin/sh
X#
X# ast2man - Transform Andy's manual pages to man(7) Author: Kees J. Bot
X#
X# Transformation:
X# .TH <name_of_page> 1
X# .SH NAME
X# <Arguments of .CD>
X# .SH SYNOPSIS
X# <Arguments of .SX>
X# <New definitions of .FL and .SX>
X# .SH OPTIONS
X# .FL ...
X# .SH EXAMPLES
X# .SX ... (.SY to .SX)
X# .SH DESCRIPTION
X# <The rest of the page>
X#
X# Some macros and strings are substituted by:
X# \(en \- (Oops, don't tell Andy.)
X# \s \f (NAME section only.)
X# ~ <space>
X# \*(OQ \*(CQ \*(SQ \&'
X# \*(M2 \s-2MINIX\s+2 (I like "Minix" better...)
X# .MX \s-2MINIX\s+2
X# .Cx .B "<tab>"
X# .DI .B
X# .HS .PP
X# .SY \&
X# .UX \s-2UNIX\s+2
X
Xcase $# in
X1) ;;
X*) echo "Usage: ast2man manual_page" >&2
Xesac
X
X# Make a manual page.
Xecho ".TH `basename $1` 1
X.SH NAME" | tr '[a-z]' '[A-Z]'
X
X# Transform the command macro.
Xsed -e '
X /^\.CD /!d
X s/\\(en/\\-/g
X s/~/ /g
X s/\\\*([OCS]Q/\\\&'\''/g
X s/\\\*(M2/MINIX/g
X s/^\.CD "*//
X s/"* *$//
X s/\\s0//g
X s/\\s[-+][0-9]//g
X s/\\f[RBIP]//g
X' $1
X
X# The syntax.
Xecho ".SH SYNOPSIS"
Xsed -e '
X /^\.SX /!d
X s/\\(en/\\-/g
X s/~/ /g
X s/\\\*([OCS]Q/\\\&'\''/g
X s/\\\*(M2/\\s-2MINIX\\s+2/g
X s/^\.SX "*/\\fB/
X s/"* *$/\\fR/
X a\
X.br
X' $1
X
X# Define macros for flags and examples.
Xecho '.de FL
X.TP
X\\fB\\$1\\fR
X\\$2
X..
X.de EX
X.TP 20
X\\fB\\$1\\fR
X# \\$2
X..'
X
X# The flags.
Xecho ".SH OPTIONS"
Xsed -e '
X /^\.FL /!d
X s/\\(en/\\-/g
X s/~/ /g
X s/\\\*([OCS]Q/\\\&'\''/g
X s/\\\*(M2/\\s-2MINIX\\s+2/g
X s/^\.FL "\\fR(none)" *$/(none)/
X' $1
X
X# The examples.
Xecho ".SH EXAMPLES"
Xsed -e '
X /^\.E[XY] /!d
X s/\\(en/\\-/g
X s/~/ /g
X s/\\\*([OCS]Q/\\\&'\''/g
X s/\\\*(M2/\\s-2MINIX\\s+2/g
X s/^\.EY /.EX /
X' $1
X
X# Extract the body.
Xecho ".SH DESCRIPTION"
Xsed -e '
X /^\.CD /d
X /^\.SX /d
X /^\.FL /d
X /^\.EX /d
X /^\.EY /d
X s/\\(en/\\-/g
X s/\\\*([OCS]Q/\\\&'\''/g
X s/\\\*(M2/\\s-2MINIX\\s+2/g
X s/^\.MX */\\s-2MINIX\\s+2/
X s/^\.Cx /.B " "/
X s/^\.DI /.B /
X s/^\.HS/.PP/
X s/^\.SY /\\\&/
X s/^\.UX */\\s-2UNIX\\s+2/
X /^$/d
X /^\.SP/d
X' $1
/
echo x - makewhatis.sh
sed '/^X/s///' > makewhatis.sh << '/'
X#!/bin/sh
X#
X# makewhatis 1.0 - make whatis(5) database. Author: Kees J. Bot.
X#
X# Make the whatis database of a man directory from the manual pages. This
X# is no trivial thing, because next to the normal man pages in the man[1-8]
X# directories, we also have a weird collection of formatted pages in the
X# cat[1-8] directories that have no formatted counterparts. Add to this
X# confusion different layouts in each different cat directory...
X#
X# Better not make a catman(8) yet.
X
Xcase $# in
X1) ;;
X*) echo "Usage: $0 <mandir>" >&2
X exit 1
Xesac
X
Xcd $1 || exit
X
X{
X # First pass, gathering the .SH NAME lines in various forms.
X
X # First the man[1-8] directories, they are as it should be. Look
X # how simple this script could have been.
X for chap in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
X do
X for page in man$chap/*.$chap
X do
X test -f "$page" || continue
X
X sed -e 's/ / /g
X /^\.SH NAME/,/^\.SH /!d
X /^\.SH /d
X s/\\//' \
X -e "s/-/($chap) -/" < "$page"
X done
X done
X
X # The commands in cat[168], look for "Command:", stop at a line
X # that doesn't start with a space. Ignore pages that have an
X # unformatted page too. (For if one does run catman(8)).
X for chap in 1 6 8
X do
X for page in cat$chap/*.$chap
X do
X test -f "$page" || continue
X test -f man$chap/`basename "$page"` && continue
X
X sed -e 's/ / /g
X /^Command:/,/^[^ ]/!d
X s/^Command:/ /
X /^[^ ]/d
X s/\\//' \
X -e "s/-/($chap) -/" < "$page" | \
X tr '\012' ' '
X echo
X done
X done
X
X # The system calls and libraries in cat[23], the description may be
X # found after "Name:", "NAME", "SYSTEM CALLS", or "SUBROUTINES".
X for chap in 2 3
X do
X for page in cat$chap/*.$chap
X do
X test -f "$page" || continue
X test -f man$chap/`basename "$page"` && continue
X
X sed -e 's/ / /g
X /^Name:/,/^[^ ]/!d
X s/^Name:/ /
X /^[^ ]/d' \
X -e "s/-/($chap) -/" < "$page" | \
X tr '\012' ' '
X echo
X
X sed -e 's/ / /g
X /^NAME/,/^[^ ]/!d
X s/^NAME/ /
X /^[^ ]/d' \
X -e "s/-/($chap) -/" < "$page" | \
X tr '\012' ' '
X echo
X
X sed -e 's/ / /g
X /^SYSTEM CALLS/,/^[^ ]/!d
X s/^SYSTEM CALLS/ /
X /^[^ ]/d' \
X -e "s/-/($chap) -/" < "$page" | \
X tr '\012' ' '
X echo
X
X sed -e 's/ / /g
X /^SUBROUTINES/,/^[^ ]/!d
X s/^SUBROUTINES/ /
X /^[^ ]/d' \
X -e "s/-/($chap) -/" < "$page" | \
X tr '\012' ' '
X echo
X done
X done
X
X # Cat4 contains file formats, this should really be cat5. (Cat4 is
X # for devices.) But as cat5 contains nothing but junk, we can treat
X # the two directories the same and hope that things get cleared up
X # one day. The whatis line can be found after "File:", but ends at
X # an empty line for a change.
X for chap in 4 5
X do
X for page in cat$chap/*.$chap
X do
X test -f "$page" || continue
X test -f man$chap/`basename "$page"` && continue
X
X sed -e 's/ / /g
X /^File:/,/^ *$/!d
X s/^File:/ /' \
X -e "s/-/($chap) -/" < "$page" | \
X tr '\012' ' '
X echo
X done
X done
X
X # Do not bother with cat7 yet.
X} | {
X # Second pass, remove empty lines, leading and trailing spaces,
X # multiple spaces to one space, remove lines without a dash.
X sed -e 's/ */ /g
X s/^ //
X s/ $//
X /^$/d
X /-/!d'
X} | {
X # Third pass, sort uniquely
X sort -u
X} > whatis
/
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From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.admin
Subject: How to boot from 2nd disk with 1st installed as well?
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.144142.19697@cs.ruu.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:41:42 GMT
Sender: network-news@cs.ruu.nl
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Lines: 22
I've added a second SCSI disk to my Indigo on which I've installed the
4.0.5 release. To check out the new release, I'm trying to boot from the
second disk, using the PROM monitor:
boot -f dksc(0,2)/unix
Well, it boots, but still seems to want to use the 1st SCSI disk (the
original system disk in the lowest slot) for root and /usr filesystem.
What other options do I need to `normally' boot from the 2nd disk? Where
do I find full (user) documentation of the PROM monitor? Where do I find
the full range of PROM environment variables documented?
Thanks very much for your help.
--[ Edwin ]--
--
Edwin H. Kremer, systems- and network manager. [NIC-Whois handle: EHK3]
Department of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
Internet: Edwin.Kremer@cs.ruu.nl NeXTmail: Edwin.Kremer@edge.cs.ruu.nl
X.400 : G=Edwin;S=Kremer;OU=cs;O=ruu;PRMD=surf;ADMD=400net;C=nl
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From: debra@wsinis07.info.win.tue.nl (Paul De Bra)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Re: serious bug in cpio -i -Htar
Message-ID: <4956@svin09.info.win.tue.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:33:03 GMT
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In article <1993Jan7.064311.9540@kilowatt.uucp> root@kilowatt.UUCP (Kilowatt admin) writes:
> SVR4 tar has another strange bug. Seems if when restoring files, you
>restore one file that is a link, say "a ->/a/b/c/d/e" and there is another
>link just after it called "b ->/a/b/c" tar will restore it as "b ->/a/b/c/d/e"
>This just seems to be a lack of the NULL at the end of the string, like
>someone did a memmov or memcpy(dest,src,strlen(src)); where it should be
>strlen(src)+1 to include the NULL. Sure this is not the same bug in the cpio
>code?
Probably not the same bug. The bug encountered with cpio -i does not occur
with tar x.
The bug is even more serious than i originally posted:
even when you do a 'cpio -ivt', i.e. you just want to look at what's in the
archive, cpio will *extract* the links from the archive.
so doing a cpio -ivt is *not* even a safe way to look at tar archives.
Paul.
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From: ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Re: IBM TCP/IP X
Message-ID: <ignacij.726780818@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu>
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:33:38 GMT
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price@helios.unl.edu (Chad Price) writes:
>francis@ese.ogi.edu (Francis Moraes) writes:
>>keating@casemo.UUCP (John Keating ) writes:
>>>I'm planning on trying out IBM's TCP/IP product, and have some questions
.....
>>>(3) With the X-Window System (02G6980), will it allow me to display Sun's
>>> OpenWindows programs?
>>No problems.
>I have had problems: mailtool crashes when attempting to use my display,
>however all of the standard X stuff works, both from a Sun and an RS-6000. I
>haven't tried the SGI yet.
With me everything works except that cmdtool does not give up keyboard and
opening options in the Sun's clock crashes the X (but not OS/2).
>>>(4) How easy is the installation? One hour, two, four, three days?
>>If you know what you're doing, one hour. I'm not a networking expert
>>by any means but I got it up in about an hour. It doesn't require that
>>you know all that much.
>I think this is a little optimistic. I wound up getting help from our IBM rep,
>as the straight install didn't work. I could now probably do it in an hour or
>2, but only because I've now read ALL of the readme files, and have done it
>before. The install _program_ does not complete the job, and you need to move
>some files around by hand. (as in the TCP/IP drivers.)
Worked right away for me; no major problems.
IBM TCP/IP certainly was not a mature product when it was released, but it
matures fast (see new CSDs every month), and some components are quite good.
I have not had major problems with ftp or NFS recently, and the mail program
with built-in spelling checker is very useful. Even the news reader is
finally working, even though posting and replying is not very easy yet (this
is in the work, the developer says). The most troublesome
part of TCPIP was X-Windows that in the past locked, grabbed keybords, lost
focus permanently, caused system freezes. The latest version (BB02052)
seems to be stable, at last.
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Ignacy Misztal E-mail: ignacy@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois Phone: (217) 244-3164
1207 W. Gregory Dr.
Urbana, IL 61801
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From: ramesh@informix.com (Nagar Ramesh)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix
Subject: Re: Informix ON-LINE archiving
Keywords: Automatic or manual only
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.053551.25891@informix.com>
Date: 11 Jan 93 05:35:51 GMT
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In article <Jan.10.22.30.35.1993.27002@remus.rutgers.edu> lad@remus.rutgers.edu (Kamlesh) writes:
>
> On Informix ON-LINE, is it posssible to automatically archive
>databases. Currently, you have to manually run tb-monitor and create
>an archive. Is there any way to write a macro or a cron to
>automatically backup the database at a certain time?
>
>
>Can anyone suggest any utilities to provide automatic archiving?
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Kamlesh
>lad@remus.rutgers.edu
hi kamlesh,
i'll leave the cron stuff up to you but the command line argument
to create an archive is tbtape -s which you can incorporate in
a cron job. however, you will be prompted for the level of
the archive and additional tapes to be mounted, if necessary.
hope this helps,
regards,
ramesh.
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From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: SUMMARY: non-optical mouse availability
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.164414.20412@informix.com>
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:44:14 GMT
Sender: news@informix.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
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Many thanks to all the netters who responded to my request for information
regarding mouse replacements for Suns.
I was sent useful information by Aslam Haswarey, Julie Reilly, Mike Khaw, John
Mckeown, Jeff Wasilko, Joe Malek, Bill Stewart, and Thomas Davis.
Several people suggesting getting in touch with Logitech and/or Mouse-trak.
Aslam said:
Logitech has a mechanical mouse(~$80, me thinks) for the Sun workstations.
Also, mouse-trak has a trackball mouse for sun workstations. They run
about $199. Call 1-800-533-4822 or send email to yvonne@moustrak.com.
Julie added:
If you order a mouse from Logitech and pay by credit card, they will let
you try it for XX-days and return it for a refund if you do not like it.
And Bill Stewart has already posted here:
Qualix sells Logitech roller mouses.
911031-00 Logitech Series 15 mouse with Sun interface $79
Qualix +1-415-572-0200 San Mateo CA
Mike added:
My SS1 has a 3-button Logitech mouse on it that works just great. No
stupid optical pad that cares about the orientation of the mouse on it
to worry about.
Jeff said that Sun Express has mechanical mice: 800-use-sunx
Thanks again to everyone.
Rob
+================================+================================+
| Rob Weinberg | Workstation publications tech |
| Email : robertw@informix.com | Graphic designer |
| Voice : 415-926-6754 | <imagine your ad here> |
+================================+================================+
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From: cliffp@informix.com (Clifford Porter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Sources for VLB boards?
Keywords: VESA 486
Message-ID: <cliffp.726778698@steamboat>
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:58:18 GMT
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drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu (Derek Suzuki) writes:
> Where can I get good prices on 486-33(/66) VLB motherboards
>with and without CPU? What sort of memory expansion options are
>available. I have 9 bit SIMMS, but might be willing to switch to 36 bit.
> Also, how much are VLB versions of the ATI Ultra Pro and the new
>S3 boards?
>Derek Suzuki
>drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu
I purchased a AIR VLB from umircle in fremont, ca. Cost $236 no cpu
256k cache, also got an orchid VLB S3(805) Video Card for $165.
MB uses 9 bit simms and supports 32 megs on board and there is an propritory
expandsion slot to add another 32 megs. Dealer said he could get an
ATI Ultra Pro for about $400. The Orchid card is faster (and cheaper)
from the mag benchmarks I've seen. I saw it running window and couldn't
resist it's speed. Now all I need is X11 and OS/2 drivers.
Be carefull about VLB motherboards, the first one I purchased would not
run UNIX, It ran DOS and OS/2 fine. It had a USA chipset and was made
in the USA.
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From: robk@wswiop01.win.tue.nl (Rob Knubben)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.pascal
Subject: Borland Pascal 7.0 : How many megs ?
Summary: How many megs does BP 7.0 take on my harddisk ?
Keywords: TP BP TPW
Message-ID: <4958@svin09.info.win.tue.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:59:24 GMT
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Hello,
Can anybody tell me how many megabyte Borland Pascal 7.0 uses ?
(On harddisk I mean). I know TP 7.0 & TPW 1.5 together use less than
20Mb. But I also know that Turbo C++ alone takes 25Mb. So I'm really
curious: the complete installation of BP 7.0: How many Mb does it take ?
Please e-mail to robk@win.tue.nl
Thanks,
Rob Knubben
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From: leahy@math.rutgers.edu (Andrew Leahy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Problem: REU and Arkanoid
Keywords: REU, Arkanoid, copy protection
Message-ID: <Jan.11.14.21.38.1993.9960@math.rutgers.edu>
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:21:38 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
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I purchased Arkanoid over Christmas break. It's a fun game, but it
doesn't seem to like my REU: I can run the program successfully when
I have my REU disconnected. However, when the REU is connected, the title
screen comes up and then the program hangs. (All of the sudden, garbage
comes on the screen and everything stops.)
Is this some sort of copy protection scheme in action? Does anyone
have any suggestions for overcoming this problem? I'd prefer not to
have my ten year-old brother tear out the REU every time he wants to
play.
Andrew Leahy
leahy@math.rutgers.edu
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From: robd@cs.kun.nl (Rob Duin)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Messages options
Summary: How do I start messages without reading mail?
Keywords: messages, mail, bulletin board
Message-ID: <C0p7CL.BDw@sci.kun.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:33:57 GMT
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Hello everbody,
The Messages program has some known options as
-s for ~/sendmessageinit
-m for only reading mail
-w for separate windows for each region
I wonder if there is also an option that prevents "messages" from accessing the /var/spool/mail directory at startup time. I just want to read the bulletin boards. Does anybody know?
Yes, I can set "unset hold" in my ".mailrc", but that file can also be used by other programs, so that is not a very good solution.
I am asking this, because at our site some people use messages and some want to use Eudora at their Mac's. We can not tell everyone to use the AMS system.
Hope you can help.
Rob Duin
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Rob Duin, Department of Informatics,
University of Nijmegen, P.O. 9010, 6500 GL Nijmegen
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: johnl@informix.com (Jonathan Leffler)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: struct vs. typedef
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.170937.22822@informix.com>
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:09:37 GMT
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In article <JAR.93Jan10152829@solva.ifi.uio.no> jar@solva.ifi.uio.no (Jo Are Rosland) writes:
>In article <uRL4wB7w165w@cybrspc.uucp> Roy M. Silvernail writes:
>
> typedef struct n {
> int x,y;
> struct n *last,*next, *up, *down;
> void (*show)(struct n *);
> int width;
> void **value;
> } ITEM;
>
> Now, this works, but it sure seems clumsy. Is this really the only way
> to do this type of construct? If not, is it the optimal solution, or is
> there some extremely clever trick I'm missing?
>
>Given C, that's the best you can get. You'll just have to get used to
>it, just like the rest of us :-).
Not so:
typedef struct n ITEM;
struct n {
int x,y;
ITEM *last,*next, *up, *down;
void (*show)(ITEM *);
int width;
void **value;
};
I prefer the style:
typedef struct Tag Tag;
struct Tag
{
...
};
where the structure tag and the typdef name are the same -- it gets closer to
C++ that way.
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From: nemleem@cs.vu.nl (Leemans NEM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,comp.sys.amigam.games
Subject: HELP ME, MONKEY2
Message-ID: <C0p24r.2GA@cs.vu.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:41:14 GMT
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I am stuck.
I am in part four and i have found the treasure on Dinky island.
I fell down and now I am constantly being harassed by Le Chuck.
He has got a voodoo doll of me and pesters me with it.
Throwing root beer at him does not help.
There is a crate of 900 pounds in the elevator that is why it doesn't
move (I guess).
What do I do now.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot seem to escape from this voodoo shit.
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From: vostveen@prl.philips.nl (Gerrit van Oostveen)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: PC ray-tracing
Message-ID: <vostveen.726762114@serpent>
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:21:54 GMT
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In <871.132.uupcb@tfd.coplex.com> eric.vitiello@tfd.coplex.com (Eric Vitiello) writes:
>TO: 1628726ps485@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca
>>Hi! I'm interested in ray-tracing on the PC. I wondered if anyone could help
>>me compile a list of software I should investigate. I know 3d Studio 2.0 is
>>probably the be-all and end-all of modellers on the PC, but I cannot justify
>>spending over $500. I have no preferance for Windows over Dos, but I would
> Sorry... It's going to be very hard to find a ray tracer for an IBM
> compatible comuter for under $500.... If you do find one, it may not
> do all that you want. The only one I can think of that is half good
> is from Brown-Wagh Publishing can't quite remember the name of it,
> but thier number is: 1-800-451-0900
>....r.c V.t.ell. .r...
>---
> . DeLuxe./386 1.25 #959sa . My Address: eric.vitiello@tfd.coplex.com
>
How about POVRay, Rayshade and VORT ? These are all public domain (cheaper
than $500) available on many sites (simtel-20, nic.funet.fi and wuarchive)
and do real raytracing. 3D-Studio does rendering only (other principle).
I used POVRay and Rayshade myself and I'm impressed with their output.
VORT gave somewhat less quality.
G.v.Oostveen
vostveen@prl.philips.nl
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From: robd@cs.kun.nl (Rob Duin)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Messages options
Summary: How do I start messages without reading mail?
Keywords: messages, mail, bulletin board
Message-ID: <C0p6yq.B7u@sci.kun.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:25:37 GMT
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Hello everbody,
The Messages program has some known options as
-s for ~/sendmessageinit
-m for only reading mail
-w for separate windows for each region
I wonder if there is also an option that prevents "messages" from accessing the /var/spool/mail directory at startup time. I just want to read the bulletin boards. Does anybody know?
Yes, I can set "unset hold" in my ".mailrc", but that file can also be used by other programs, so that is not a very good solution.
I am asking this, because at our site some people use messages and some want to use Eudora at their Mac's. We can not tell everyone to use the AMS system.
Hope you can help.
Rob Duin
--
=======================================
= Rob Duin
= Internet email adres: robd@cs.kun.nl
= X.400 adres: c=nl;admd=400net;prmd=surf;o=kun;ou=cs;s=robd;
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From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: MH and Solaris 2.x sendmail
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.155727.11219@fwi.uva.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:57:27 GMT
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jromine@binky.ics.uci.edu (John Romine) writes:
>andys@flatline.sbi.com (Andy Sherman) writes:
>>We are running Solaris 2.1 and I've noticed a change in sendmail. To better
>>integrate with the multimedia mailtool, sendmail makes sure there are
>>Content-Type and Content-Length headers in every message. Since it
>>now *knows* the body length of a message, it has no need to prepend a
>>'>' to every line beginning with \nFrom. So it doesn't. The result is
>>that when my boss forwards a message to me, inc splits it into two
>What happens if a message already has a content-length header, but
>Sun's sendmail doesn't agree with the length given? TOPS20 used
>a mailbox format which included file lengths... it sure was a pain
>to edit those mailbox files.
First of all, it isn't sendmail that adds the Content-Length: header,
it is the local mailer. It fixes the Content-length header if you
send a wrong one, as it should. (Or it simply always replaces it).
>As for MH, it supports the UUCP-style (From user date ...) and
>MMDF-style (ctrl-A) mailbox formats. It doesn't support the newly-
>discovered Solaris-broken-UUCP-style mailbox format.
Ah. The ``ugly hack with >From'' is better? Bullshit. A Content-Length:
header seems the only right way (no need to escape anything in any message).
>It seems likely that other UAs will also not understand the
>Solaris-broken-UUCP-style mailbox format. Perhaps fixing
>/bin/mail to write the '>' characters is the right thing to do?
Elm does understand Content-Length: headers. MH is the only other
mail agent we have installed that doesn't come with the system. All
Solaris UA understant Content-Length: headers.
Fixing MH would be the proper thing to do.
Casper
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From: bjp2399@ultb.isc.rit.edu (B.J. Prusha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: weird cable
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.182140.12274@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:21:40 GMT
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In article <Jade.0s0o@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca> Jade@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Jade) writes:
>I have got this external 5.25 drive. But with it I got this really weird
>cable that I haven't seen before. It has 37 pins (or very close to that
>number) and they won't plug into any computer I have seen. I don't know
>much about the external drive but I was wondering what it would take to get
>this hooked up to my system. Has anyone ever run across a cable like this?
>
>
>-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
>
That sounds like a connecter to the old external 8" drives. If you
have an external 5.25, it's quite possible the person who gave it to you
included the wrong cable.
The cable you probably need is the standard 25pin connection. Your
local friendly computer store should have it in stock.
Hope I helped.
Brock Prusha
--
Remember, thou art mortal
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From: moore@cs.utk.edu (Keith Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: MH and Solaris 2.x sendmail
Message-ID: <9301111954.AA03289@wilma.cs.utk.edu>
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:56:18 GMT
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In-Reply-To: Your message of "11 Jan 1993 16:08:50 GMT."
<ANDYS.93Jan11110850@shlepper.sbi.com>
> From: Andy Sherman <andys@flatline.sbi.com>
> Subject: Re: MH and Solaris 2.x sendmail
> Date: 11 Jan 93 16:08:50 GMT
> No, it is not in the cards for me to mung /bin/mail. Another poster
> pointed out that sendmail *does* have an option to quote From_ lines,
> which I may do, although I'd much rather teach MH to grok
> Content-Length headers (the ugly hack is building as we speak). My
> reasoning is that Sun did *not* break UUCP-style maildrops, but rather
> they unbroke them in preparation for things like a) their multi-media
> mail, b) MIME, and c) X.400, all of which use content-length to give
> you a definitive answer to the question "Where does the $%$##@# body
> end, anyway?"
FYI, MIME does *NOT* use content-length, or anything like it. The
content-length header is completely nonstandard.
The ">From" hack is ugly, no doubt about it. However, using a header field
to delimit messages within a mailbox strikes me as even worse, particularly
when it breaks interoperability with other systems using NFS as a mail access
protocol.
However, it seems like MH wants to support the local mailbox format, whatever
that is...so it might do well for a future version of MH to be able to grok
Content-length headers on local mailboxes only on Solaris systems. But I'd
just as soon they be REMOVED from all outgoing mail. The presence of
Content-length headers in Internet email is just going to add to the general
confusion about what is standard and what isn't.
Keith Moore
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From: eur@dutncp2.tn.tudelft.nl (Eur van Andel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Compaq Contura w/ two displays
Keywords: Compaq Contura
Message-ID: <eur.726761720@dutncp8>
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:15:20 GMT
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In <1993Jan11.114641.14332@ugle.unit.no> nch@Lise.Unit.NO (Nils-Christian Haugen) writes:
>I got a Compaq Contura with an external display.
>Some time ago, someone mentioned that the Contura could use both the internal
>and the external display at the same time in 640x480 16 color mode.
>How do you do that? I would like to run Turbo Pascal 6.0 in dual screen mode,
>but the /d switch doesn't work. Is there a way to do this or have I gotten
>someone wrong?
The dual screen mode in Turbo 6 works probably only with a Hercules/MDA screen
and an EGA/VGA screen. The external display port on laptops displays the same
as on the LCD screen and cannot be accessed separately, IMHO.
Sorry. :-(
--
eur eur@dutncp8.tn.tudelft.nl
--
eur eur@dutncp8.tn.tudelft.nl
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From: cardinal@informix.com (Edward Cardinal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Super tiny "System" file?
Message-ID: <cardinal.726777393@pythagoras>
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OK, here's a topic that's kind of "retro," but I have seen a bit of traffic
lately on the net for how to use an old mac. Here's my solution, and some
questions:
I have made a Supercard application to run on my old Plus (w/4MB RAM)
for my one-and-a-half year old son. All it does is show bitmaps of
animals, etc., every few seconds, and it intercepts all key and mouse
events (he likes to bang on the keyboard).
I want it to run just by having the machine turned on (he can do it
himself; he's pretty precocious). I only have an 800K internal drive,
and I want as much room as possible for the bitmaps.
I named the application "Finder" and stuck a System on the disk. I had
to use Resedit to trim the System file and application by hand to make
them even smaller, because the application is fairly large (about
500K). I sliced out all the color stuff, and minimalized the text
messages (It now just says "Error! for everything),
Any hints on what else I can cut from the System file without making it go
BOOM? What's the smallest you've ever gotten a 6.0.x system to be?
If you are familiar with Supercard internals, is there anything I can slice
out of the application? I'm sure there is a lot of waste in this context.
The images came from a Hypercard stack originally. Is there a small FREE
(or shareware) hypercard stack browser/player?
As another approach, is there a super-small application that does this
kind of thing (say, for stand-alone self-running ads) that just shows a
series of bitmaps (I can convert them to any format if necessary)? At
best, it would run under an older System so it could be smaller, with
more room on the disk for images. It could even be optimized for the
small screen. Supercard takes up a lot of room for things I don't need
once the app is ready, like the script editor, etc. I'd write my own,
but I don't have the time right now.
--
[ Ed Cardinal An English major from Berkeley ]
[ Who sold out to programming ]
[ cardinal@informix.com Because it pays more. ]
[ DISCLAIMER: My Opinions. MINE! MINE! MINE! ]
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From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: email to General Electric Information Network
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.195641.8178@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:56:41 GMT
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In article <1993Jan9.212222.15619@ncsu.edu> dghumphr@eos.ncsu.edu
(David Humphrey) writes:
>This may no be the best place to post this, but I'm hoping that
>someone here can provide some help for me. I have a friend with
>some type of an account on the general electric information
>network and I know his login on that network. What I would like
>to know is: can I send him email? And if so, how? His login on
>the G.E. network is of the form X.YYYYY
GEnie now has a facility for exchanging mail with
Internet hosts. Your friend has to subscribe to
a special service on GEnie. They charge something
like $9.40 a month for a mailbox for incoming mail,
and $0.40 per outgoing message.
For more details on how to do this, call your friend
on the phone and suggest that he download the relevant
information from the Internet roundtable.
--
Chuck Karish karish@mindcraft.com
(415) 323-9000 x117 karish@pangea.stanford.edu
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: What to do with comp.binaries.atari.st/comp.sources.atari.st?
Message-ID: <hjv.726762468@groucho.phil.ruu.nl>
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dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward) writes:
>koreth@spud.Hyperion.COM (Steven Grimm) writes:
>So what might be a good idea is to open the newsgroups to
>discussion of the latest software, of all varieties.
I always thought that this was one of the purposes of c.s.a.st... As far as
I recall, that *was* one of the purposes... long ago, before the flame-wars
and falcon-threads.
>Just my thoughts...
And just one of mine...
--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra hjv@phil.ruu.nl * How can I save my dreams
Dept. of Philosophy * in the nightmare, in the flood
University of Utrecht * But I try.
The Netherlands *
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From: sppst4+@pitt.edu (Sean P Peck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Supra Peak RS-232 interface
Message-ID: <1673@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:58:29 GMT
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Attention all 128 global war players, if you play GLOBAL WAR online
game, then you must get the latest version of GWTERM 128. This file can
now be found on GENIE and on the PCG BBS (412)-434-6249. It is also FREQable
from this bbs (1:129/143) (I believe that is the correct number) The file
is named GW3.ARC. Enjoy!
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From: sater@cs.vu.nl (Hans van Staveren)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: Re: FDDI board refuses to work, 100% cpu load to boot
Message-ID: <C0p6z3.665@cs.vu.nl>
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:25:50 GMT
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I wrote:
>I just installed our first FDDI board in our Cisco, and surprise..
>it doesn't work. It looks like it cannot enter into the ring. I had it
>installed at first in our ring with 3 Interphase FDDI boards, but when that
>didn't work I tried looping back the Cisco to itself. Even that did not
>work. I configured it:
> interface fddi0
> ip address 130.37.16.1 255.255.255.0
> no shutdown
>The router is now very slow, the 'show proc' output shows that the PHY-A
>and PHY-B processes take all the time. I did a shutdown on the interface
>and the router is back to normal.
I received a number of replies from people within Cisco. Most of them pointed
to an internal cable problem and after confirming it with our vendor this
turned out to be the case. The problem was that our hardware manuals said
the cables from applique to interface board would be labelled 1,2,3 and 4,
and then gave a picture how these should be installed to connectors P1,P2,P3
and P4.
It turned out that the cables were labelled A,B,C and D, and the obvious
transformation I made was wrong. The A,B,C and D cables should be attached
to the connectors from left to right, in that order.
Everything works now. I am left with the impression however that installation
instructions for interface boards should be distributed with the interface
boards and not with the router itself. That makes it possible to change
the cabling after selling the router without inconveniencing customers.
Hans van Staveren
Vrije Universiteit
Amsterdam, Holland
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From: eagle@silver.lcs.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: MacLC on UUCP
Summary: How do I get a MacLC on UUCP
Message-ID: <1993Jan11.194354.16381@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:43:54 GMT
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Can anyone on the net tell me if there are some inexpensive
ways to hook my Macintosh LC [10/105, 2400 bps modem] up to
UUCP through a phone line, inexpensively for personal use ?
Where do I get a link? What software do I need? What else ?
eagle@silver.lcs.mit.edu My first unanswered FAQ....
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From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: File Sharing
Message-ID: <Apgar-110193110148@17.127.11.26>
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:03:08 GMT
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In article <1993Jan8.194618.8862@wixer.cactus.org>, bcombs@wixer.cactus.org
(Brian Combs) wrote:
>
>
>
> A friend of mine is using System 7 File Sharing with a Toshiba Optical drive.
> They want to know if there is any way to switch optical cartridges w/o having
> to reset sharing.
>
> Any suggestions you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...
Only current way is to use AppleShare 3.
Apgar@Apple.com | Eric Apgar alias Gar | I said it, NOT Apple.
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From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple Announces StyleWriter II
Message-ID: <Apgar-110193110956@17.127.11.26>
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:20:23 GMT
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In article <C0JGJn.45s@netnews.jhuapl.edu>, ygor@3d2c.jhuapl.edu (Daniel E.
White (F2C)) wrote:
>
> Questions:
>
> Will the "Greyscale" software work on the original StyleWriter and
> if so, is it available separately ?
It's "not supported" but I heard it works pretty good.
>
> Is there an upgrade path available to us owners of the original ?
>
Since, it's "not supported" I doubt it. Try the AAC.
Apgar@Apple.com | Eric Apgar alias Gar | I said it, NOT Apple.
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