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Re: BNF (Re: genes for language)

#182
From: MORI Koichiro
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 00:00
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>>>>> "kono" == Shinji Kono <kono@ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp> writes:

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> In article <smryan-0105970213130001@10.0.2.15>, !@?*$% <smryan@mail.com> wrote:
> >> Some context-free grammars are very difficult to deal with, and some
> >> transformational grammars are easy to deal with.  The split between
> >> CFG's and CSG's is interesting, but it doesn't always mean what
> >
> >Languages used by computers almost always have a natural LR(k) CF grammar
> >(and even LL(k)),
> 
> I don't think this is the case.  The context free grammars that real
> programming languages "have" does not describe their actual syntax---it
> only bounds it.  There are important syntactic properties of programms
> that cannot be captured by context free grammars.  Generally, this
> problem is hidden by calling whatever the parser can do syntax, and
> whatever it can't do non-syntax of some kind.  (Like "static semantics".)

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From: kmori@ca2.so-net.or.jp (MORI Koichiro)
Subject: Re: BNF (Re: genes for language)
Date: 1997/05/21
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