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Article #10301Re: No money for basic research?(was Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
From: Kenji Rikitake
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1992 04:36
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1992 04:36
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In article <2705@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes: |I'm not sure what usage rule of Japan-US you are speaking of. one more: Acceptable Use Policy imposed by NSFnet. On your cost complaints: I am not responsible on InetClub issue, but you should pay what you want to get, after all. If you don't want to deal, quit and find something else - that's all I can say. |I've read where the underlying transport mechanism of the Internet |doesn't lend itself to charging according to who uses how much of |what. [...] Your analogy on national highway system is interesting, but I guess the actual reason why Internet is not imposing usage accounting is that the cost of accounting itself is too high. |While Japan's system may be "fair" it will also be much more |expensive. And because of that expense only large companies or |Mombusho-supported universities will be able to use the Internet |which is the hidden agenda: keeping the information in the hands of |those in power. Not that this is said, or even thought of, but this |cultural assumption can be easily observed by just looking at the |structure of Japanese society. Information IS power indeed. And you have to pay for it. So I pay for myself and trying to keep the power myself - although I am trying to re-distribute some of them to others. Maybe from an American point of view Japan is not an open country. Or it may be rather a closed country. But making things too open will lead to a social chaos and a catastrophe. And Internet in Japan itself is not at all "authorized" or "supported" by the government - so you've got to be very careful on running it. The reason why access to the Internet is so restricted in Japan is simple - no bandwidth, no money, and no administrative organizations enough to support "a public service". If you are going to make it a public service, NTT, KDD and other telecom carriers will complain and try to intervene and that's not what the key people running JUNET/WIDE and Internet in Japan want. |IMHO, Japan is at a crossroads. For the past 50 years it has gained |immense economic power and part of this has been to have lots of |information come in, and very little leave. But I think those days |have come to an end, and either Japan will need to become a fully |equal partner in sharing information or it will be seen as getting a |free ride and cut off. Your phylosophy is right - but without money you won't be able to do much. BTW please post John Perry Barlow's essay here. Some fj readers will show interests. // Kenji
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10cc01,30093f113075cb2c X-Google-Attributes: gid10cc01,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-09-16 14:39:32 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!sun-barr!sh.wide!wnoc-kyo!astemgw!astem-news!kenji From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) Newsgroups: fj.misc Subject: Re: No money for basic research?(was Re: How to survive in Japan [English] Message-ID: <KENJI.92Sep17133605@kappore.tom.astem.or.jp> Date: 17 Sep 92 04:36:05 GMT References: <INAGAKI.92Sep3121324@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp> <AKI.92Sep7125445@kagari.mel.toshiba.CO.JP> <4643@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp> <KENJI.92Sep9151616@kappore.tom.astem.or.jp> <ARAKI.92Sep9184436@cs1.sfc.keio.ac.jp> <AKI.92Sep10195450@kagari.m Sender: news@astem.or.jp Distribution: fj Organization: RCAC Project, ASTEM RI, Kyoto, Japan Lines: 54 In-reply-to: davidg@aegis.or.jp's message of 16 Sep 92 23:59:22 GMT