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Article #10309Re: No money for basic research?(was Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
From: Dave McLane
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1992 22:30
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1992 22:30
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kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes: >In article <2705@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes: > |Perhaps. But other countries are moving in that direction as it is > |simply too expensive for the country as a whole. Governmental, > |academic, and profit-making organizations are coming together (not > |without some friction).... >The hardest part in Japan is here - how to get all these organization >together, while maintaining freedom to keep their policies. I don't believe it's hard at all: it's impossible: If you want to work together, you have to give up part of your freedom. If you want to maintain your complete freedom you have to remain isolated from the people/organizations who join together. Such is life <sigh>. > |I'm not sure what usage rule of Japan-US you are speaking of. >WIDE Internet is NOT a public service. It's a leased-lined service >with limited users (i.e. all organizations joining/registering JUNET >Association or JNIC.) And WIDE does not have a license to operate a >public service. I don't have your original statement at hand (and I'm too lazy to go back and find it :-) but I don't believe there is a "Japan-US usage rule". There are WIDE-Internet rules and there are Internet rules. While there is a physical connection between WIDE and the Interent there is no common rule that I know of. As you say, WIDE doesn't have a license to operate as a public service (and, I believe, can't get one due to Japanese rules for telecommunication) while the Internet *is* operating as a public service. IMHO, calling WIDE the "WIDE Internet" creates an illusion that WIDE is operating on the same basis at the Internet. But I think that as people find out that WIDE is *NOT* administratively part of the international Internet there is bound to be some unhappiness as evidences by the "Will Japan Jack In" article in the communications of the ACM. As I understand the situation, it is impossible for WIDE or any other network/organization can take part in the Internet until the Japanese laws regarding telecommunication over leased lines are changed. Until then you can either have limited services over leased lines or public services over dial-up lines. Dave -- Dave McLane davidg@aegis.or.jp You're free to copy/quote/translate as long as credit is given. Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10cc01,30093f113075cb2c X-Google-Attributes: gid10cc01,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-09-17 10:29:10 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!sun-barr!sh.wide!wnoc-kyo!kuis!aegis!davidg From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) Newsgroups: fj.misc Subject: Re: No money for basic research?(was Re: How to survive in Japan [English] Message-ID: <2711@aegis.or.jp> Date: 17 Sep 92 22:30:13 GMT References: <INAGAKI.92Sep3121324@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp> <AKI.92Sep7125445@kagari.mel.toshiba.CO.JP> <4643@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp> <KENJI.92Sep9151616@kappore.tom.astem.or.jp> <ARAKI.92Sep9184436@cs1.sfc.keio.ac.jp> <AKI.92Sep10195450@kagari.m Distribution: fj Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan Lines: 55