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kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes:

>In article <2713@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
> |So at one time people *were* subscribing to news over InetClub.

>I dunno whether kddlab (= InetClub host name) still feeds news to
>other sites, but I'm sure that kddlab no longer gets news feed from
>UUNET.  I find several international news feeding links (e.g. 
>ccut!sun-barr, nec.co.jp!mips, mei.co.jp!panasonic.com, sh8810!uunet),
>but I'm not sure if finding where a USENET news article exactly comes
>from is useful, because those articles are shared and spreaded among
>the Japan Internet.

Yes, there are quite a few. I've changed the Subject: line as the
main point I was replying to was somebody (whose name has
disappeared from the thread) was saying that his site at Toshiba
couldn't afford non-fj. newsgroups. 

> |Such hard drives can't cost more than 3 X the price in Japan and
> |certainly a company the size of Toshiba could afford them.  (Maybe
> |their executives could give up a couple of games of golf:-) So I
> |think we are talking about economic *priorities* more than anything
> |else. 

>The price of hard disk drives in Japan is getting cheaper too. Check
>out magazines - like UNIX Magazine or SuperASCII. (No affiliation with
>ASCII Corp., just shown as examples)

I've heard that this is so. They are cheaper than what they were before
but still much more expensive that what can be obtained from outside
of Japan. Since there are no restrictions on where I buy from, I
go for the best product at the best price with the best service.

All things considered (quality, reliablity, service) I don't think
equipment made in Japan is to expensive. The original single-line
Aegis ran on a NEC 9801. When I decided the way to go to multi-line
was to move to UNIX and get multi-tasking as well I wanted to get
another NEC but there wasn't any unlimited user UNIX system
available (fall '90). So I got an AT-compatible and ISC UNIX. I was
reluctant to do so as the NECs worked well (and still continue to
work!) and I valued being able to go into Bit-Inn and have them fix
the few things that didn't. But I really needed unlimited user UNIX
so I had to go elsewhere. 

So many times when people start saying "We can't afford it", I think
they're only looking for some excuse to avoid saying they don't have
any interest in doing something. Not always, but when I ask myself
if a company the size of Toshiba can't afford to carry news because
they can't afford the hard disk, I think it's only a joke :-)

Dave

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