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In article <2715@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

   kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono) writes:

   >Junet/Wide project are taking important part in the Internet. Like
   >bitnet/decnet, Junet/Wide have their own rules, which are respected
   >from Internet society.  For example, we cannot allow alt.sex.pictures
   >in Japan. And who pays Japan-US internet link? If US pays we are ready
   >to obey Internet rule, of course.

   From what you say about alt.sex.pictures not being allowed in Japan,
   I suspect there may be another reason why Junet/WIDE can't take part
   in the Internet: people can access anything. There is no easy way to
   say limit kind of information can be obtained. 

I think it was Mr. Kono's opinion about "we cannot allow alt...".  I
don't care what flows via my feed as long as it is not outright criminal.
Like disseminating the today's street price of Cocaine in Yokohama,
etc.. Of course, real criminals are not that stupid to post these
things on usenet-like network :-)

	[ about some old discussion how to restrict access of children
	  to materials...]

   The thread ended when somebody put up the guidelines of the American
   Library Association.

I remember seeing similar posting which somehow mysteriously appeared
at our site in alt.something.freedom. (I think it came with one of the
news NG article and cross posted there.) I thought this was one of the
writings that I find worth keeping somewhere on my file system in
a last couple of years. Although it is not written with emotions, it
sure does beat reading about (academic) freedom. The essense is all there.
(Well, too bad, I can't find it anywhere in my file system now.)

   >You cannot force your own rule without taking democratic procedure.  If
   >we admit jobs advertisment in fj.wanted or fj.jobs, we have to take a
   >risk against our goverment. This is also true when we re-transmit news
   >article from site to site. The decision is ours, and the decision was
   >made in the recent discussion in fj news group.

   I think you are concept of 'rules' is misguided when applied outside
   of Japan. I've never seen any rules of this kind for the internet
   and have simply asssumed that they would be along the same lines as
   USENET where there aren't any.  People are free to put up what they
   want, and read what they want: If you're interested in something,
   put it up. If you don't like something, don't read it. As far as I
   know this is a *convention* not a rule: thus there is no need for
   any procedure, democratic or otherwise. 

I kind of like this anarchy of usenet and had expected the same thing
here, but wrooong! I think the aritcles Mr. Kono mentioned are
job-related articles (like help wanted, or position available), and
blatant business offerings ("The company I work for has this great
product, the features are blah, blah, blah...", the kind of things.). 
I personally think the distinction between these NG are so subtle that
there is no use trying to prevent such articles. Usenet even has biz
newsgroup.  But, just a personal opinion. I need to work with the
Japanese sites anyway. Come to think of it, I asked the company I work
for to set up direct UUNET connection so that we don't have to go through
these Japanese uucp hop sites that have these guidelines so that we
can exchange business-oriented messages with our overseas clients.
Major reason we bypassed InetClub was this reason. UUNET doesn't have
this kind of guideline (or convention...).