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Article #368Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan)
From: Dave McLane
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 22:32
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 22:32
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kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes: >Dave McLane (davidg@aegis.or.jp) wrote: >: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes: >: My guess is that the Japanese who are in the US are probably >: working/living with a relatively small subset of the US culture: the >: upper-middle class of which I am a member by virtue of the fact that >: I went to college and have acquired some non-manual skills. >[rest deleted] >I agree with Dave on this. I didn't learn a lot about bad points of >US society when I was in Boulder, Colorado 18 years ago - and I >should confess that my information about US is mostly second-hand >basis. While I spent most of my life among the middle class I had two direct experiences with members of other classes within the US: 4 years in the US air force as an enlisted man (1955-59), and 2 years living in a small town in N. California where the principle industry was logging (1970-72). That's such a long time ago that details wouldn't be very relevant to what life in the US is like today, but I would guess there are still basic differences between lifestyles. When I was in the US last spring visting my daughter we had long talks about how her life as turned out, considering her childhood. She was born in LA, her mother and I were divorced when she was 2 and she moved around between her mother and I, living sometimes in LA and sometimes with me in N. California or other places. Then her mother got remarried and she went to live in Vermont, way down a one-lane country road in an old farmhouse. Most of the kids she went to school with were country or working-class people. After 6 years, her mother moved to Santa Monica and she went to Santa Monica high school. What a great learning experience! IMO, most everything that gets written about the US is about the middle or upper class, and the few things that are about the other classes are highly idealistic. If you're Arnold Schwarzenegger (sp?) and you walk into a country-style bar (as in Terminator II) you come out of it OK. But if you're a middle-class kid like me and you walk into a place like that (and I have), you feel lucky to get alive... Dave -- Dave McLane davidg@aegis.or.jp You're free to copy/quote/translate as long as credit is given. Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ccut!sh.wide!wnoc-kyo!kuis!aegis!davidg From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) Newsgroups: fj.misc Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan) Message-ID: <2782@aegis.or.jp> Date: 1 Oct 92 22:32:06 GMT References: <2775@aegis.or.jp> <11500@astem.or.jp> Distribution: fj Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan Lines: 47