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(Summary) homepage in English

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From: smatsuda
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:00
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Hi Ross.
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In summary, "home page / homepage" in English is a valid live word.

:In the online dictionary of m-w.com lists "home page":
::Main Entry: home page
::Function: noun
::Date: 1992
::the page typically encountered first at a World Wide Web site 
::that usually contains links to the other pages of the site or to
::other sites 

Encarta World English Dictionary gives two definitions:
"enochan" <eno@chan.ne.jp>, in <86a1pg$2mf$1@nwms2.odn.ne.jp>

home page n.
::1. WEB SITE OPENING PAGE the opening page of an Internet Web site.
::2. PERSONAL SITE ON INTERNET somebody's personal Web site on the Internet,
::often containing personal data, photographs, or contact information.

The definition of "web page" in the same dictionary is as follows:
Web page, web page n.
::a computer file, encoded in HyperText Markup Language (HTML) and 
::containing text, graphics files, and sound files, that is accessible 
::through the World Wide Web.
::Every Web page has a unique Uniform Resource Locator (URL), or address.

As illustrated by Ross Klatte, these two definitions are beginning
to change: No.2 definition is overriding the No.1 definition, the 
original definition of "home page".

In article <20000123071552.03694.00000818@ng-fx1.aol.com>, 
klatteross@aol.commmm (Ross Klatte) wrote:
:I think meaning No. 1 is older.  
:But meaning No. 2 is becoming more and more popular.  
:Eventually No. 2 will drive out No. 1.  
:We will have to find a new word for an opening page,
:or just use "opening page."  

As pointed out by strangerer, disagreement still remains between
dictionarists and populists about the correct usage of that term,
but the medium might be on the populist one.

In article <86e4kd$re$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, 
strangerer <strangerer@my-deja.com> wrote:
:A few months ago I was a lurker in a conversation between
:dictionariasts and translators about the correct usage for home page
:and the distinction between "web site" and "home page".  The general
:verdict in both languages (Japanese and English) is that there should
:be a distinction but the medium is a populist one and it remains to be
:seen whether those who aim for some precision and meaning the the
:evolution of language will be able to hold again the tide of those who
:have no idea and care less of how the thing works.

This disagreement is also documented by the post of Ben Bullock,
which clearly distinguishes the two definitions.  But it seems that
the disagreement is not of Japanese/English difference but that of
dictionarist/populist.

In article <869fch$hq3$1@nwms2.odn.ne.jp>, 
"Ben Bullock" <hayamasa@syd.odn.ne.jp> wrote:
:The difference that may have caused the confusion is that
:Japanese people use "home page" for all internet pages indiscriminately.
:"home page" is usually just one "start page" for each person or group
:with other pages linked to it.
-- 
shuji matsuda smatsuda@med.keio.ac.jp
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Date: 2000/01/26
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